Hello Paul >Just wondering what other people are using to mix up the lye and >methanol with. Seems that I read alot about putting it in a sealed >container to avoid fumes... but then how do you mix it up? Just shake >it around or do you need to have some sort of sealed mixed in the >carboy??! Does that do enough? > >The "Foolproof" method notes that "... It's nasty stuff and it's not >easy to mix -- and it must be thoroughly mixed before you use it, with >all the lye dissolved" and goes on to note that you just give it a >series of swirls and then let it sit.
"Once it's all added [ie the lye], replace the stopper and the lid, and swirl the mixture about for a few seconds. Then let it stand. Do that a few more times, every few hours or so (at least 4-6 times in all). It will be thoroughly dissolved in 24 hours, or maybe a bit longer." See: Methoxide the easy way http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_aleksnew.html#easymeth Also: Mixing the methoxide http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#methmix "... If you shake it a lot, and often, it can be ready a lot sooner than 24 hours -- in just a few hours, or even less, some people say. But DON'T use it until ALL the lye is thoroughly dissolved. If you use a white translucent HDPE container you can see any undissolved lye at the bottom of the container." >Is that enough to thoroughly mix >it?! Sounds good to me if so as I was planning on having to mix up >several small batches in my blender and then pouring them into a >container together, sealing that and then having it gravity fed through >a tube into the processor. Or use an air-pump, such as an aquarium aerator. More details here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor5.html Simple 5-gallon processor >So,... just pour, shake thoroughly, and >drain..?!. > >Also, does the base vs acid process demand more or less thorough >mixing? Any thoughts out there? Methoxide is methoxide, it has to be thoroughly mixed no matter which process you use. See above. I much agree with Todd's advice re KOH, we seldom use NaOH these days. KOH mixes quickly and easily, and there are other advantages. See: More about lye http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye The "Foolproof" acid-base method, by the way, is not for newcomers: "NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not for novices -- learn the basics thoroughly first. The single-stage base method is the place to start. Start here." "Here" being here: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best Keith >- Paul Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/