<x-charset ISO-8859-1>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Pieter Koole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I thought that NaOH and methanol should not be mixed too long before use.
This is a widespread myth... if you keep it closed tight it's fine keeping methoxide for long periods of time. Just re-stir it somehow if any solids have settled out. > Can I mix it 24 hours before I need it ? Or maybe even longer ? > If not, why not ? Go right ahead, just make sure it can't evaporate the methanol. mark > > Met vriendelijke groeten, > Pieter Koole > Netherlands. > (Maasbree, a beautifull little village, to be exact) > > The information contained in this message (including attachments) is > confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) > only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and > notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, > copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be > liable for direct, special, indirect or > consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this > message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result > of any virus being passed on. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:23 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methoxide mixing > > > > Paul, > > > > For most, simple HDPE gallon jugs or HDPE 5 gallon carboys are sufficient, > > preferably translucent. Prepare the sodium methoxide 12-24 hours in > advance > > and time will do most of the dissolving for you, with perhaps an > occasional > > bit of agitation. > > > > KOH dissolves much more readily (a matter of minutes with mild agitation) > > than NaOH, but perhaps is not as available for some. > > > > Doesn't matter if the process you choose is acid/base or straight base. It > > serves your interests best if you make sure that adequate mixing takes > > place. Treat neither any differently from the other. > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul B.Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "biodiesel lisst serve" <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:40 AM > > Subject: [biofuel] Methoxide mixing > > > > > > > Just wondering what other people are using to mix up the lye and > > > methanol with. Seems that I read alot about putting it in a sealed > > > container to avoid fumes... but then how do you mix it up? Just shake > > > it around or do you need to have some sort of sealed mixed in the > > > carboy??! Does that do enough? > > > > > > The "Foolproof" method notes that "... It's nasty stuff and it's not > > > easy to mix -- and it must be thoroughly mixed before you use it, with > > > all the lye dissolved" and goes on to note that you just give it a > > > series of swirls and then let it sit. Is that enough to thoroughly mix > > > it?! Sounds good to me if so as I was planning on having to mix up > > > several small batches in my blender and then pouring them into a > > > container together, sealing that and then having it gravity fed through > > > a tube into the processor. So,... just pour, shake thoroughly, and > > > drain..?!. > > > > > > Also, does the base vs acid process demand more or less thorough > > > mixing? Any thoughts out there? > > > > > > - Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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