Adam,
 
Do a search for MSDS (Material Safety and Data Sheet) This will list the
flash point vapor pressure, and recommended fire suppression media. In
the case of one MSDS, it was noted that foam  (AFFF), dry chemical and
CO2 were recommended.
   As a former fire fighter, you have to have enough fire suppression
material on hand but the best advice, is get out and call 911 because no
amount of material wealth is worth losing your life over fighting a
fire. If you store your finish product in a steel drum, that needs to
have a bonded ground connection. Static protection is a good idea anyway
with working around the storage or making of bio-diesel. If your 200 L
is stored with a fire resistant lid (hopefully) then the next problem is
storage in an area where there is a source of combustion (other
flammables, ignition source point such as hot work equipment like
welding, drill motors, grinding equipment. Have a fire resistant oily
rag can with a spring lid.
  Answering exactly how much fire fighting media is need depends on
several points. Did a fire occur when the 200 L has spilled and has
involved other types of combustibles as in a wooded floor, out door near
dry grass or brush, curtains, furnishing, paper. Is the weather a factor
such as wind, humidity and temp. Is your fire contained within a drum
only? Is it in an enclosed area, open area outdoor, under an overhang,
under a tree?  In the best case, you can extinguish a self contained
fire by placing a lid on the container. Gas and petroleum fires are
fought by containing the source and laying on a blanket of oxygen
reducing foam Small multi class fire extinguishers have a limited amount
of material and should be checked annually as some dry chemicals will
cake during long storage they are not a good choice outdoors as the
wrong use can actually spread flames.One of the first things a fire
fighter learns is the term, "Put the wet stuff on the red stuff.". Water
is the number one choice for firefighting because it's cheap, available
and easy to transport. Water may or may not be a good choice because it
can actually help to spread flames. Water is used to cool a fire below
the flash point. Remember only a gas burns, not a liquid or a solid.
Only when a material is heated will it release a gas that actually
burns, not the material. This is the same for fluids. A garden hose will
deliver between 3-7 gallons per minute which is just enough to push a
good fire around, not put it out, Foams are mixed with water because
they will blanket the fuel and cool the flash point. There are several
commercial systems like Ansel available if you store fuel in a secure
area.  The most serious consideration in a bio-diesel fire are the by-
products of combustion. This has to be considered. In an enclosed area
the rapid lack of available breathable air is the single biggest factor
in your survival during a fire. People generally succumb to respiration
issues due to toxic substances. 
  The best thing to do is have a plan, including the layout of your
storage area, utility shut offs, evacuation route, first aid kit. Your
fire may happen in the middle of the night and the fire dept needs to
know where you've stored it if it is in a building. You won't be doing
your best thinking at 3AM so be prepared. Also have a spill kit to
contain and absorb any spills to aid in preventing a larger fire
potential. Run through a fire drill several times and make sure others
beside you know exactly what you're up to out in the garage at night
brewing bio-diesel.  The 5 P's save lives-Proper Planning Prevents Poor
Performance.. Ok so this sounds like preaching but if you've ever seen
someone terribly burned in a fire, you'd understand.. One last thing..
don't be a dead hero, call the fire dept in the event of a fire.. If
fact pre-empt them and call and ask the same question, How do I fight a
bio-diesel fire. They are not there to shut down your operation but
would be helpful in setting up a safety program for you.
 
Arlos
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Hunt, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 2:11 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Diesel fire suppression
 
What is the recommended fire suppressant for diesel fires?  I am
thinking about what type of safety system would be used around a >200L
batch processor.

--adam



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