No problem Todd. I gotcha, loud and clear. Even if Ken was 100% correct, I would have worded it a little differently and certainly would not have made presumptions as to what you don't know. That's just an invitation to a contest in which I prefer not to enter. Since you seem ready to accept such an invitation, I just want to say that I'm sorry about the misunderstanding and let's move on. These kinds of exchanges can consume an awful lot of time and I think we all have bigger fish to fry. Mike
Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, When two people say the same thing, one of them cannot be right and the other wrong. While that may be the reality of politics, that's not reality. Please see my reply to Ken's post. As well, Ken made more than one statement of absolutism. When you state that he "is right," you lend to a perception that all of his statements are correct. Note was made of at least two points of error in two of his conclusions. While his qualifications are correct, as are yours, his declarations of wrongness are in error. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Redler" To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return,Warns Leading Climate Expert > Ken is right. > > The statement > > "'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'." > > could only be true if the same amount of energy reaches the Earth's > surface every day. Changes in the ozone layer changes the amount of energy > reaching the Earths surface. > > The greenhouse effect addresses the Earth's ability to absorb or filter > certain wave lengths of light. > > When you're in front of a large, open flame, you feel the heat radiated > from the fire. Hold a pane of glass in front of your face and you will > notice that it doesn't feel as hot. That's how I visualize the ozone layer > at work. > > FYI: This isn't an original idea. Someone thought of this comparison long > before me. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=greenhouse+effect+explained+fireplace&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt > > Mike > > Ken Riznyk wrote: > > --- Appal Energy wrote: > >> Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so >> much heat per minute, >> hour, day or year, your "colder than normal" means >> that someone else has a >> "hotter than normal." > > NOT TRUE > You statement shows that you do not understand the > greenhouse effect. The sun may radiate about the same > amount of heat but the earth also radiates heat, the > greenhouse gases trap some of that radiation - hence > global warming. Global cooling could result from dust > or moisture in the atmosphere dissipating some of the > sun's radiation. > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
