7Dear Appal,
I must apologize for my post. People say that one
of the problems with email is that you click the send
button before you have a chance to sit back and
cogitate about what you are saying. I certainly should
have been more circumsect in my response. My only
defense is that there is a lot of misinformation about
global warming and people dissing global warming is
one of my pet peeves. The most outragous statement
about global warming I read in a respected magazine
was that there was that in 1513 there was a great
amount of global warming and none of the catastrophic
events predicted ever happened. No mention was made of
what scientific institution monitored temperatures
around the globe in 1513, nor how they were able to
measure the temperature since the thermometer was not
invented until the 18th century.
Ken
--- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> > Since you seem ready to accept such an invitation,
>
> Bit of a presumption or two there, eh? One that
> there was an invite and two
> that if there were that I would care to parlay
> valuable time for such a
> distraction. Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
>
> I'd prefer to approach it as a gap in communication,
> aka a misunderstanding.
> There are far more destructive/debilitating
> practices out there,
> accomplished with intent no less, that need to be
> squashed or quarantined.
> I'd rather save my energies for those more notable
> occassions.
>
> What is it that the Buddhist monk said? "It's not
> often a person gets the
> chance to be a human. It's a shame to waste it." Or
> something rather close
> to that.
>
> We're only given so much time and one existance to
> expend it. It would be a
> shame to squander it on those things that yield no
> fruit..
>
> Todd Swearingen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching
> Point of No Return,Warns
> Leading Climate Expert
>
>
> > No problem Todd.
> >
> > I gotcha, loud and clear. Even if Ken was 100%
> correct, I would have
> > worded it a little differently and certainly would
> not have made
> > presumptions as to what you don't know. That's
> just an invitation to a
> > contest in which I prefer not to enter. Since you
> seem ready to accept
> > such an invitation, I just want to say that I'm
> sorry about the
> > misunderstanding and let's move on.
> >
> > These kinds of exchanges can consume an awful lot
> of time and I think we
> > all have bigger fish to fry.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael,
> >
> > When two people say the same thing, one of them
> cannot be right and the
> > other wrong. While that may be the reality of
> politics, that's not
> > reality.
> >
> > Please see my reply to Ken's post.
> >
> > As well, Ken made more than one statement of
> absolutism. When you state
> > that
> > he "is right," you lend to a perception that all
> of his statements are
> > correct. Note was made of at least two points of
> error in two of his
> > conclusions.
> >
> > While his qualifications are correct, as are
> yours, his declarations of
> > wrongness are in error.
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Redler"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Global Warming Approaching
> Point of No Return,Warns
> > Leading Climate Expert
> >
> >
> >> Ken is right.
> >>
> >> The statement
> >>
> >> "'colder than normal' means that someone else has
> a 'hotter than
> >> normal'."
> >>
> >> could only be true if the same amount of energy
> reaches the Earth's
> >> surface every day. Changes in the ozone layer
> changes the amount of
> >> energy
> >> reaching the Earths surface.
> >>
> >> The greenhouse effect addresses the Earth's
> ability to absorb or filter
> >> certain wave lengths of light.
> >>
> >> When you're in front of a large, open flame, you
> feel the heat radiated
> >> from the fire. Hold a pane of glass in front of
> your face and you will
> >> notice that it doesn't feel as hot. That's how I
> visualize the ozone
> >> layer
> >> at work.
> >>
> >> FYI: This isn't an original idea. Someone thought
> of this comparison long
> >> before me.
> >>
>
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=greenhouse+effect+explained+fireplace&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&fl=0&x=wrt
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Ken Riznyk wrote:
> >>
> >> --- Appal Energy wrote:
> >>
> >>> Considering the fact that the sun only radiates
> so
> >>> much heat per minute,
> >>> hour, day or year, your "colder than normal"
> means
> >>> that someone else has a
> >>> "hotter than normal."
> >>
> >> NOT TRUE
> >> You statement shows that you do not understand
> the
> >> greenhouse effect. The sun may radiate about the
> same
> >> amount of heat but the earth also radiates heat,
> the
> >> greenhouse gases trap some of that radiation -
> hence
> >> global warming. Global cooling could result from
> dust
> >> or moisture in the atmosphere dissipating some of
> the
> >> sun's radiation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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