Well I am not against racing, but my point is if these researchers look
at the racing starting from F1 down to Nascar the picture is not rosy.

As you have written in your e-mail F1 team burns a lot (200.000lt per year
per team).  So if you add them all its more than a drop in the bucket. 
Let's hope that the technology developped in those races reflects to the
daily cars.

If you consider that bikes are 4 strokes, fuel injected and have catalytic
converters, they can be a good solution to help with clogging cities and
air pollution.

I believe the better solution in the big cities would be public
transportation, and electric vehicles.  Lets hope they would also research
the effect of using biofuel in busses as public transportation.

Regards

Burak


> Burak_l wrote:
>
>> And finally I hope they do not research how much is waisted in car races
>> like formula-1, Lemans endurance etc...
>> Those machines are loud and very very thirsty.  Probabily one of them
>> during
>> 1 race pollutes more than a typical rider
>> can manage whole year.
>
> With regard to racing, it isn't that black and white.
>
> First, you seem to be conflating wasting resources (eg burning lots of
> fuel) with the amount of pollution produced. They aren't necessarily the
> same thing. You can burn 10 liters dirtily or you can burn 100 liters
> cleanly - they are different issues.
>
> Second, even if a single team in a single race uses more fuel or
> pollutes more that a single private individual in an entire year, you're
> still comparing (for F1) 10 teams (2 cars each) by 19 races to millions
> of riders/drivers every day over the course of a year. You're talking
> about a drop in the bucket.
>
> On the plus side, racing drives innovation. Consider the FSI engine
> technology Audi developed for the their R8 LMP (LeMans Prototype) car.
> Now you can buy lean burning FSI powered cars at Audi dealers.
>
> Likewise, the brand new Audi R10 LMP has a V12 TDI powerplant that gets
> over a 100 hp per liter. That kind of performance out of reliable diesel
> is amazing. An I expect those advances in diesel technology will show up
> in VW and Audi dealerships within 5 or 6 years.
>
> Racing also has the ability to prove to people that renewables aren't
> just some crunchy granola lefty tree-hugger pipedream. Demonstrating
> that renewables can perform is critical in the PR battle with the oil
> lobby.
>
> For example, the IndyRacingLeague - and thus by default, the Indy500 -
> is switching from methanol to renewable ethanol for the 2007 season.
> That's a huge win for renewables.
>
> As mentioned above, the Audi factory team is running a diesel powered
> LMP in ALMS this year, although I suspect Audi will be using
> petrodiesel, at least to start. However, that won't be the only diesel
> in ALMS this season - D1 Oils plc is sponsoring a biodiesel powered Lola
> LMP that will run b5, b20 and b50 blends.
>
> But yes, on the negative side, racing does waste resources. According to
>   formula1.com, "During a typical season a Formula One team will use
> over 200,000 litres of fuel for testing and racing." That's a lotta fuel.
>
> And don't get me started about the the fact that NASCAR still uses
> leaded gasoline.
>
> Still, I think you're throwing the baby out with the bath water and
> having an emotional reaction to a study you don't like.
>
> Small displacement motorcycles don't burn cleanly and pollute a lot.
> Acknowledge that fact and move on with your life. Don't try to justify
> it by pointing fingers at someone else. That's just childish.
>
> jh
>
>
>
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