Joe, Keep in mind that I had a 1M. piece of copper tubing submerged in the BD for over 3 months. I have a cubie of BD that was still crystal clear after 2 months (the longest I have stored BD other than the polymerized stuff) and it will go in the car. The 50+ gal (200L) of BD in question is burning in my oil-fired boiler. I'm about half way through it and with the temps getting cooler it should be gone soon. Good riddance to it. I like the silver lining you found in what looked like a grey cloud. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Polymerization of BD- more than copper to be concernedwith.
> While looking for info on IR spectra, I found this excellent paper; > > http://nationalbiodieselboard.com/resources/reportsdatabase/reports/gen/19970612_gen-234.pdf#search=%22biodiesel%20methyl%20ester%20wavenumber%22 > > Which talks about issues surrounding fuel contamination and deposits. > An earlier thread had comments from Tom Kelly regarding copper ions > causing polymerization. According to this paper other metals such as > aluminum and iron can catalyze polymerization when biodiesel is stored. > This news is good and bad. The bad news is I think it is impossible to > avoid these metal ions. Even if the system is all plastic or plastic > lined I bet the WVO feedstocks are already chocked with metal, and the > fuel will pick up metals in the vehicle anyways. This means that > biodiesel should not be stored. DUH. Didn't I read that on J2F years > ago? The good news is that the polymerization is slow at room > temperature. This is also good news because it means that the folks who > are trying to produce massive quantities of biodiesel are going to have > a BIG problem that they just cannot solve because they need to store and > transport the product. And their product has a poor shelf life. Hmmm. Of > course the home brewer who can make fuel locally and use it immediately > doesn't have to worry. Yaaaay. Chalk one up for sustainability. > Uh I guess we already knew this eh Keith? But I never thought of it as > a problem for big oil until now. > > Joe > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/