hi Keith, you said "Large-scale animal and animal products production has no future and > has a disgusting past without any merit. There is no place for "the > industry". There is plenty of place for unpasteurised real milk and > the healthy people who drink it." I agree, they are in it for the money > (which we do need) with less regard for the environmental footprint, and > lacking the passion to provide good food to the people. However, could you > elaborate on the size of scale you are refering to in the above statement. I > mean there are hundreds of millions of people who live in cities that cant > farm or produce for themselves. Ultimately, in the end I believe the smaller > and more localised the farm is to its consumption destination, the better. It > reduces transport costs, packaging and ultimately energy demand. Individual > small farms to produce food for themselves and the community is the best > option if practiced responsibily with the social and environmental issues in > mind. Having said this what are your thoughts for providing food to the > cities.
best Joshua > Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Andres > > >I am affraid the pasteurization process is necessary because to eat > >untreated foods is DANGEROUS for humans. > > Not true. Please see my previous reply and check the references there. > > >The larger the production scale the > >higher the risk. > > True. > > >The living parts of foods are oftenly poisonous for us > >like bacteria. > > Not necessarily so. Look at your previous statement about the > production scale. The inverse is equally true: the smaller the scale > the lower the risk - in other words small-scale local production, > such as on CSA farms. This can be and usually is safe and > high-quality. Traditional agricultural systems all had and have good > solutions to these problems. But modern large-scale production has no > such answers. > > >Thanks to god there is still a lot of vegetables we can eat > >in large volumes without processing and alive. > > And quite possibly covered with various pesticide residues and with > only poor nutritional quality - again a problem that increases as the > production scale increases, and decreases to zero as the scale > decreases. > > >There are alternative process to pasteurization, but still expensive > for the > >industry to do it large scale. > > Large-scale animal and animal products production has no future and > has a disgusting past without any merit. There is no place for "the > industry". There is plenty of place for unpasteurised real milk and > the healthy people who drink it. > > >Anyway those process kill all. > > Many people are saying that that is what industrial "food" processing > is accomplishing. They seem to have a strong case for that argument. > > Best > > Keith > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 11:45 PM > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Time is running out to Save Raw Almonds! > > > > > > >I agree. what ever happened to "natural food", soo many things these > days > > >are procesed, heat treated or altered from their natural state in > some way > > >or another. We are protected, inhibiting our own imunity from doing > its > > >job. I suspect that pasteurization could escilate the health problems > by > > >feeding humans "dead" food. One part of health is eating live food. I > see > > >this in the same boat as white bread, white flour, white sugar, white > rice, > > >etc. Foods need to be less procesed and offered in their natural > states. > > > > > > Almonds also contain health promoting mono and polyunsaturated fats, > that > > > when heated to a hot enough temperature, degrade and turn rancid. Im > sure > > > that there are people out there that are also concerned about this. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Forwarding > > >> > > >> As of Sept 1, 2007, all almonds are to be pasteurized! > > >> Please take a moment to contact US Secretary of Agriculture Mike > Johanns > > >> and ask him to use his influence to reverse this ruling. > > >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> Phone: 202-720-3631 > > >> Fax: 202-720-2166 > > >> > > >> Contact the Almond Board and let them know your thoughts, too. > > >> http://www.almondboard.com/utilities/FORMContactUs.cfm > > >> (209) 549-8262 > > >> > > >> This article gives a great overview on the issue. Thanks for taking > > >> action. > > >> Time is running out to save raw almonds. > > >> Even if you don't eat almonds, please speak up anyway. > > >> If there is a precedent for pasteurizing almonds, we may soon find > more > > >> of our foods mandated for pasteurization. > > >> > > >> -S. > > >> > > >> ---------------------------- > > >> The Almond Board of California, which oversees virtually 100 > percent of > > >> the almonds grown and consumed in the United States and Canada, is > now > > >> implementing plans to pasteurize all almonds at temperatures up to > 158 > > >> degrees (F) and yet have them intentionally and falsely labeled as > > >> "raw." The decision was made following the 2001 and 2004 outbreaks > of > > >> salmonella in almonds, and is based on the intention of the Almond > Board > > >> of California to provide a "safe, nutritious product to consumers" > but > > >> not, it seems, an accurately labeled food product to consumers. > > >> > > >> Although it seems unthinkable to anyone familiar with the > fundamentals > > >> of nutrition, the Almond Board fails to recognize any distinction > > >> between raw almonds and cooked almonds. In statements received by > > >> NewsTarget, the Almond Board explained that, "raw almonds that have > been > > >> pasteurized do not differ in any significant way from untreated raw > > >> almonds." > > >> > > >> Except, of course, for the fact that they are dead. Stating that > live, > > >> raw almonds are the same as dead, cooked almonds is equivalent to > > >> stating that a living human being is the same as a corpse. > > >> > > >> Raw foods are widely understood by virtually the entire food > community > > >> to mean food items kept below 108 degrees (F), beyond which the > living > > >> enzymes in foods are destroyed. Pasteurization, in contrast, > exposes > > >> foods to temperatures of up to 158 degrees for durations up to 30 > > >> minutes. (Faster "flash" pasteurization can involve much higher > > >> temperatures for shorter durations: 280 degrees (F) for two > seconds, for > > >> example.) NewsTarget does not know the precise temperature that > will be > > >> used for pasteurizing almonds, but it will without question be a > > >> temperature higher than 108 degrees (F), which means the almonds > can no > > >> longer be considered raw by any reasonable person familiar with the > > >> definition of raw. > > >> > > >> Outcry from the raw foods community > > >> > > >> The raw foods community, not surprisingly, is alarmed at the new > rules, > > >> which openly condone the false labeling of a food product. Dr. > Gabriel > > >> Cousens, author of several top-selling books on raw foods and > founder of > > >> the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center in Arizona ( www.TreeofLife.nu > ), > > >> told NewsTarget, "This mandatory almond pasteurization is an effort > by > > >> the powers that be to limit access to healthy food. It is a serious > > >> attack on people's ability to eat what they want and support their > > >> health. In this important way, it deprives us of our basic rights > of > > >> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is a serious > incursion > > >> of rights for a trivial and preventable reason, this being that the > > >> [past] contamination of the almonds was from a single source." > > >> > > >> The issue at hand here is not merely that all California almonds > will > > >> now be sterilized, but that cooked almonds will be deliberately and > > >> falsely labeled as raw. It's like opening a carton of fresh eggs > and > > >> finding out they've already been hard-boiled. This is a clear case > of > > >> deceptive labeling that should, by any common sense definition, be > > >> illegal. Yet the FDA seems perfectly happy with this deception and > will > > >> apparently allow consumers to be blatantly misled about the food > > >> products they are purchasing. > > >> > > >> Raw doesn't mean raw > > >> > > >> The Almond Board of California (ABC) is aware of the outcry > concerning > > >> the new pasteurization rule, but believes that the outcry is > without > > >> merit. "The almond board understands there is an outcry, but we > maintain > > >> that the quality of the almond is substantially the same as it is > raw," > > >> said Marcha Venable of the ABC. > > >> > > >> With this decision, the Almond Board of California seems > surprisingly > > >> out of touch with the California lifestyle, which is significantly > based > > >> on fresh, raw food products like limes, avocados and almonds. The > living > > >> foods / raw foods movement in the United States is largely a > product of > > >> the natural California lifestyle, and yet the Almond Board seems to > have > > >> no hesitation in intentionally mislabeling its cooked almond > products as > > >> raw, misleading consumers into thinking they're buying live almonds > when > > >> they aren't. > > >> > > >> This isn't something that's being covertly pursued, either. The > Almond > > >> Board is blatantly and openly stating that cooked almonds will be > > >> labeled as "raw." > > >> If all these almond deceptions seem a bit hard to swallow, check > the > > >> definition of "raw" in the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, > which > > >> states that "raw" means: > > >> > > >> 1. uncooked, as articles of food: a raw carrot. > > >> > > >> 2. not having undergone processes of preparing, dressing, > finishing, > > >> refining, or manufacture: raw cotton. > > >> > > >> > > >> In direct contradiction to this clear definition, the Almond Board > of > > >> California is now insisting that cooked = raw. > > >> > > >> Think about that for a minute. Cooked is raw. > > >> > > >> War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is power. (1984 by > George > > >> Orwell) > > >> > > >> And now, in the California almond industry, cooked is raw. > > >> > > >> Apparently, the perception of what's in the bag is far more > important > > >> than what's really in the bag. Ignorance is power, after all. > > >> > > >> How the almonds will be cooked > > >> > > >> Pasteurization is a heat process that kills microorganisms by > exposing > > >> them to high temperatures. Unfortunately, the process also kills > the > > >> enzymes and living qualities of the food in question. Raw nuts and > seeds > > >> can be planted and will actually sprout, indicating they are alive > and > > >> vibrant, but cooked nuts and seeds will not sprout, indicating they > are > > >> dead and have no remaining life force. > > >> > > >> Pasteurization is effective at eliminating microorganisms precisely > > >> because it kills things. But heat is not a selective killer. It > kills > > >> the almond just as easily as it kills the microorganisms. Thus, any > > >> sterilized almond package will contain dead almonds. > > >> > > >> There are other technologies that can kill microorganisms without > > >> requiring pasteurization. Ozone treatment, for example, is > extremely > > >> effective at reducing microorganisms and yet requires no high > > >> temperatures. Ozone-treated almonds could still be truly raw, but > the > > >> Almond Board is not actively pursuing large-scale ozone treatments, > > >> perhaps due to the cost (pasteurization is cheap and easy, where > ozone > > >> treatments require investments in expensive equipment). > > >> > > >> It's not just the almonds that are going to be cooked under the new > > >> plans, however. The reputation of the Almond Board of California is > also > > >> being sterilized. Who can trust an organization that openly and > > >> blatantly announces its intention to mislabel cooked almonds as raw > > >> almonds? If the almonds were honestly labeled as "pasteurized" or > > >> "sterilized," then that would be at least be a defensible position. > But > > >> to intentionally and deliberately propose that a food product be > > >> deceptively labeled is inexcusable in any industry, including the > almond > > >> industry. > > >> > > >> Not enough public comments > > >> > > >> The Almond Board of California says the new pasteurization rule is > no > > >> secret, and it was published in a federal registry that welcomed > > >> comments from the public. The commentary period ended in January. > "They > > >> did not receive enough comments to warrant a review," Marcha > Venable > > >> told NewsTarget, "So it's really the overwhelming cry of consumers > > >> across the nation for healthy food products." > > >> > > >> NewsTarget finds that quote perplexing. A lack of response is not > > >> equivalent to, "an overwhelming cry." Silence is not a mandate. > Perhaps > > >> the people were simply too astonished to speak. > > >> > > >> With this new false labeling rule, the almond industry joins the > dairy > > >> industry in the "kill your food" philosophical camp. Dairy products > are > > >> pasteurized for the same reason (to kill microorganisms and extend > shelf > > >> life), yet raw dairy products have been found to exhibit tremendous > > >> health and nutritional advantages over cooked, processed dairy > products. > > >> > > >> > > >> By cooking its almonds, the Almond Board of California will be > > >> unwittingly killing its product and delivering an inferior almond > to > > >> consumers. Raw foods enthusiasts wishing to make their own raw > almond > > >> milk will now be without easy options. Ultimately, it seems that > the > > >> Almond Board of California is not merely killing the almonds; it's > also > > >> killing its reputation. The harm to the almond industry from > increasing > > >> awareness about the false labeling could reach into the tens of > millions > > >> of dollars in a single year. > > >> > > >> No exceptions > > >> > > >> Contrary to popular belief, there are no practical exceptions to > the > > >> pasteurization rule, at least not for consumers. Certain > organizations > > >> can be granted "Direct Verifiable" exceptions (DV), but only if > they > > >> later pasteurize the almonds as part of a manufactured food product > such > > >> as a granola bar. Thus, all almonds grown in California will, by > law, > > >> have to be killed. > > >> > > >> NewsTarget is currently attempting to find a source of truly raw > almonds > > >> that we can recommend to consumers. Any organic almond growers who > wish > > >> to be part of our recommended list of honest, raw almond sources > are > > >> free to contact us through our feedback page. Once we are able to > locate > > >> reputable sources of raw almonds, we will make that list available > to > > >> NewsTarget readers. > > >> > > >> The double standard > > >> > > >> Interestingly, meat products are not required to be cooked before > being > > >> sold, despite the numerous outbreaks of e.coli in meat that are > > >> announced each year. Why aren't hamburgers outlawed or raw meat > products > > >> banned? > > >> > > >> It is also interesting that there is absolutely no effort by state > or > > >> federal regulators to remove the additives and ingredients in foods > that > > >> kill consumers through cancer, heart disease, diabetes and liver > > >> disorders. Sodium nitrite, for example, remains perfectly legal to > add > > >> to processed meat products, even though it substantially increases > the > > >> risk of pancreatic cancer, colon cancer and even breast cancer. > > >> Hydrogenated oils, aspartame, petroleum-derived food coloring > chemicals > > >> and cancer-causing preservative chemicals all remain legal as well. > > >> > > >> Clearly, the goal of so-called "food safety" initiatives have > nothing to > > >> do with actually protecting consumers, but a whole lot to do with > > >> meeting the interests of agricultural companies and junk food > > >> manufacturers. The primary concern of food safety officials appears > to > > >> be extending shelf life, not protecting consumer health, which is > why > > >> most of the food safety rules in effect today -- and even new ones > like > > >> this almond pasteurization rule -- primarily have the effect of > > >> extending food shelf life. > > >> > > >> With this recent decision, the Almond Board of California has > > >> unwittingly joined the conglomeration of uncaring, ignorant > agricultural > > >> corporate interests who have no real concern for consumers, > although > > >> they disguise their actions as such. Before long, it seems, all the > food > > >> sold in the United States will be genetically modified, irradiated, > > >> pasteurized, homogenized, hydrolyzed and packaged for a two-year > shelf > > >> life. And it will all be labeled as "All natural!" > > >> > > >> It's no wonder, then that the United States population demonstrates > the > > >> lowest levels of mental and physical health of any advanced nation. > We > > >> are the walking dead, largely because we eat predominantly dead > foods. > > >> > > >> Ignorance beyond belief > > >> > > >> The Almond Board of California is now joining the "dead food > society" > > >> and contributing to this problem, apparently out of astonishing > > >> ignorance of the difference between live foods vs. dead foods. > Perhaps > > >> someone should explain to the almond board what seeds are, and > > >> demonstrate the planting of a seed and its miraculous creation of a > > >> young plant. > > >> > > >> It seems beyond belief that the organization overseeing tens of > millions > > >> of dollars in almond production each year would have no apparent > > >> familiarity with the living foods benefits of their own products. > It > > >> would be like an airplane manufacturer having no familiarity with > the > > >> physics of flight, or a search engine company that had no idea what > the > > >> internet was. Perhaps the Almond Board members have pasteurized > their > > >> own heads and now have no working brain matter remaining to put to > a > > >> sensible use. > > >> > > >> It almost seems silly to have to say this, but there is a > difference > > >> between life and death. The character of an almond is no more > defined by > > >> its material matter than the character of a person is defined by > the > > >> mineral ash of their cremated body. What's contained in a raw nut, > seed, > > >> root or plant goes beyond mere chemistry, beyond the minerals, > vitamins, > > >> oils and fiber. A raw nut exhibits a living energy that is > qualitatively > > >> unique and cannot be replaced by a dead nut. This is obvious to > > >> virtually everyone familiar with the fundamentals of nutrition, but > it > > >> has apparently escaped the notice of the ABC, whose only business > is > > >> almonds! > > >> > > >> The new false labeling rule goes into effect in the Fall of 2007. > > >> Until then, enjoy your raw, healthy almonds, because unless you > have > > >> your own almond tree, they may soon be a thing of the past. > > >> > > >> Action item > > >> > > >> If you're a consumer of almonds anywhere in North America, your > supply > > >> of raw almonds is now at risk. > > >> Contact the Almond Board of California and let them know what you > think: > > >> > > >> > > >> http://www.almondboard.com/utilities/FORMContactUs.cfm > > >> > > >> Their phone number is (209) 549-8262 > > >> > > >> ### > > >> > > >> Mike Adams is a consumer health advocate with a mission to teach > > >> personal and planetary health to the public He has authored and > > >> published thousands of articles, interviews, consumers guies, and > books > > >> on topics like health and the environment, reaching millions of > readers > > >> with information that is saving lives and improving personal health > > >> around the world. Adams is an independent journalist with strong > ethics > > >> who does not get paid to write articles about any product or > company. In > > >> 2007, Adams launched EcoLEDs, a maker of super bright LED light > bulbs > > >> that are 1000% more energy efficient than incandescent lights. He's > also > > >> a successful software entrepreneur, having founded a well known > email > > >> marketing software company whose technology currently powers the > > >> NewsTarget email newsletters. 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