10 minute bus service is great, but it's much more likely that a high 
demand came first. I doubt a 10 minute run to outlying towns would 
increase demand much. I'm on the 21, which I think just went from hourly 
service on Saturdays to every 2 hours. As long as I plan my trips, I 
don't feel hindered by less service.

If the choices were to buy big buses or not have buses, I wouldn't call 
it a silly choice. And before thinking that smaller buses will be 
better, there have been times when I have been on full buses. I think a 
combination of small and large buses could work well, but I think the 
large buses are very important to certain routes and certain times of 
the day.

-Andy

Margaret McCasland wrote:
> I've been wondering about this for years.
> 
> BTW, I know those giant buses cause traffic problems in town and are  
> mostly empty most of the time. Back when we were trying to restore  
> Cayuga and Aurora as 2 way streets (partial success there), we were  
> told the giant buses were the reason they had to stay one way.
> 
> I was given some silly reason for buying the biggest buses possible  
> back when I first pushed for restoring the two-way patter. It was  
> something like "but the feds will pay most of the cost, so we may as  
> well get bigger buses." But maybe there was a better reason. Now that  
> operating costs are higher, maybe the cost-benefit equation will shift  
> towards smaller, more frequent buses. And watch what happens to  
> ridership when buses come every 30 or even 15-20 minutes; just think  
> how popular the 10 minute shuttles are.
> 
> Thanks to Valorie for asking a key question (and for deleting the  
> previous content so her post doesn't have a "long tail").
> 
> Margaret
> 
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Valorie Rockney wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Ben, for posting this - it's very useful information.
>>
>> Is there any discussion currently about using smaller, more fuel-
>> efficient buses, at least during non-peak times? . A few years ago, I
>> heard that such buses weren't eligible for certain kinds of funding -
>> is that the case now?
>>
>> Thanks, everyone,
>> Valorie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Ben Heavner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sustainable Tompkins Folks!
>>>
>>> There's been some interesting discussion lately about mass transit
>>> choices being made right now in the City of Ithaca that I thought I'd
>>> pass along in hopes of finding some creative solutions to the
>>> possibility of reduced TCAT service in Ithaca and surrounding areas.
>>>
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