Hi DJ, thanks for the offer. I will keep that in mind when discussing the options for the next european conference. It would be great to have a conference in France.
Andreas --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "benamou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll be happy to help with SVG open paris 2008 if any ... > This would have to be confirmed but we could probably use > INRIA conference center for free... > Best > DJ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Bolger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <svg-developers@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Open 2006 San Diego? > > > > In fairness to SVG Open, it being a "very_young" > > graphics conference in contrast to SIGGRAPH. > > SIGGRAPH has learned and developed a process > > by which the "Venue" is set 4 years in advance. > > So as we could all be "scouting":) locations within > > the respective format, Paris might be good for 2008, > > San Fransisco in 2009:-) > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > Michael Bolger wrote: > > > >>Hi Francis and Doug, as I was helping with this > >>process, in the spring 2005 was a basic list > >>of locations to "investigate": > >>1) San Fransisco > >>2) Victoria/Vancouver > >>3) San Diego > >>1 and 3 required a 30-50% down on venues > >>1 year in advance (preferred is 2 years in advance), > >>let us say modestly $50,000 cash down:( > >>with all the turbulence around Adobe-Macromedia > >>(not that it was their fault), the timing for funding > >>was just not in the cards. > >> > >>Kurt and his team will do a great job, British Columbia > >>has an outstanding group of XML folks, Victoria, > >>all things considered will be a big winner for SVG. > >>It is wonderful up there:). > >> > >>regards > >>Michael Bolger > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Francis Hemsher wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Doug, > >>>As always, you are well-informed. I agree with your evaluation of > >>>Kurt, his efforts, and Victoria. But you must understand that I > >>>believe that SVG can best be served by a serious US recognition at > >>>this time. Shucks, if the opening came to San Diego, I probably > >>>would have work SO hard to help it happen..I don't want this. I'd > >>>rather go to Victoria and enjoy its lovely environment. > >>>Anyway, if others feel that SVG would be best supported at this time > >>>by coming to San Diego U.S., and they can offer their support, then > >>>let that be an indicator...If none respond, then I am wrong in my > >>>assumptions. > >>> > >>>Francis > >>> > >>> > >>>--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Schepers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi, Francis- > >>>> > >>>>Actually, as I learned at SO2005, the original location for SVG > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Open 2006 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>was slated to be San Francisco, but the plan had to be nixed. I > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>think the > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>reasons cited were a lack of local sponsors willing to commit > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>early on (a > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>serious blow) and trouble finding a venue that could keep costs > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>down. Nobody > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>else stepped up to the plate, and I am personally very > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>appreciative to Kurt > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Cagle for jumping in at the last minute to arrange for it to be in > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Victoria, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>BC, Canada. He had to scramble to take care of those 2 things, and > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>he did it > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>well (though I'm sure there's still much to do on those accounts). > >>>> > >>>>Another factor, as I understand it, is that it can be rather > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>difficult in > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>this post-9-11 America for foreigners to get US visas on short > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>notice (say, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>3-6 months). This would threaten the number of possible attendees > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>presenters (who might not know whether their presentations were > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>accepted > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>until a few months beforehand). > >>>> > >>>>Besides, Victoria is beautiful, and it's easily reached from the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>US. I don't > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>see how it threatens the US SVG market or American attendees at > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>all. As for > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>the US being the best market, just try to buy an SVG-enabled phone > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>here. :( > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Plus? In Victoria? Kick-butt whale-watching rides on a zippy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>little zodiac! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I didn't see any whales, but it was like a 2-hour long log-flume > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>ride > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>cracking over those waves. And I got to eat seaweed right out of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>the ocean. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>(The only thing I got in San Diego was a really bad case of > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>sunburn...) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>It is a very challenging commitment for someone to undertake the > >>>>organization of a conference, and while it's regrettable that not > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>every need > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>can be accomodated, I salute those who are willing to take on the > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>task. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Regards- > >>>>Doug > >>>>Mysterious SVG Conspirator At Large > >>>> > >>>>doug . schepers @ vectoreal.com > >>>>www.vectoreal.com ...for scalable solutions. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Francis Hemsher wrote: > >>>>| > >>>>| I think it is extremely foolish of the SVG powers-that-are to > >>>>| continually ignore the US to host its open. Do you think we > >>>>| are a bunch of unaware SVGers? If so, you are much > >>>>| un-informed, and offer an insult to your best market. I don't > >>>>| understand this hesitancy on your part? > >>>>| Are you afraid the the US market will take away your control > >>>>| of a currently weak SVG presentation? You're probably right. > >>>>| Do you want SVG to succeed, or would you rather it continue > >>>>| to meander in the limbo of its present existence? > >>>>| > >>>>| Francis > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>----- > >>To unsubscribe send a message to: > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>-or- > >>visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > >>membership" > >>---- > >>Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > To unsubscribe send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -or- > > visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my > > membership" > > ---- > > Yahoo! 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