Geoffrey, Adobe "gave up" on SVG around the end of 2001. No, it didn't give up on SVG completely but it did cut back its effort in a major way. If my memory serves me correctly ASV3 came out around November 2001. Compare what Adobe did from 1999-2001 with SVG against what it has done in the last 4 years. And then you will likely see why I say that Adobe "gave up" on SVG a long time ago. Adobe's actions (or failures to act) at that time seriously damaged the momentum behind SVG. It could, potentially, have destroyed SVG but it didn't. A commonly asked question is why did Adobe push SVG forward (which it did) then "pull the plug" on SVG. The best explanation/suggestion that I know is that Adobe saw SVG as a strategic threat to PDF (which, as far as I am aware, Adobe owns). Will Adobe "give up" **completely** on SVG in the near future? I doubt it. Will Adobe ever completely support all of SVG? I doubt that too, but that is simply a guess. The good thing is that the damage resulting from Adobe's failures to act from 2001 to 2005 in further developing implementations of SVG, has stimulated others to pick up the torch. The plus side is that SVG is no longer a "single company" technology (not that it ever was, strictly speaking). But SVG, although having been damaged by Adobe's inaction, is in better shape now than I have seen it for a very long time. For example, the FireFox SVG implementation (although far from complete) gives a base for genuine cross-platform SVG support. I very much hope that the Mozilla Foundation really puts effort and resources into taking forward the Firefox SVG implementation. On the other hand, SVG has a more impressive potential competitor on the horizon than it has had up to now. I am referring to Microsoft's XAML and the Sparkle Designer. I am guessing that that is, say, 18 months off from release but it has, in my opinion, enormous potential. Currently Windows only as far as I am aware. So it's not a direct competitor to Firefox SVG. What does SVG need? Others are better placed than I currently am to make specific suggestions. I think one of the crucial things is a design/development tool that makes creating SVG easier for designers/programmers. That's where I see Microsoft as having a particularly strong tool in Sparkle - it gives a design environment that allows designing and programming to work synergistically. To the best of my knowledge SVG hasn't had such a tool. In my opinion it needs one. 99% (at a guess) of the people who could develop/design with SVG won't have the time to hand code. All the above is my opinion. YMMV. Andrew Watt In a message dated 13/12/2005 18:46:58 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just installed the ASV 6 beta (from http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/beta.html ) and it looks really good. The antialiasing looks better, and some helpful features like cursors are implemented. The shadow filter I am using looks cleaner as well. But since the BETA is 2.5 years old, it looks like Adobe's work has ground to a halt. As kewl as SVG is, is Adobe giving up on it? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/1U_rlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ----- To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" ---- Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/