Hi Philipp! On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Saroj Adhikari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just few suggestions on your application. > > Disclaimer: I am not expressing my thoughts about the content/ > proceedings of the application/actual-gsoc-work. I am just pointing > out things that I think will better your application structure, > grammar, and punctuation. > > > > > Target of this application is to create a lightweight gui for the > > python based computer algebra system sympy. > > The target of this application.... > > > > The GUI should be able to > > graphically present formulas and graphs inside the document.This GUI > > could be seen as a lightweight replacement for sage notebook. I want > > to create an alternative to the sage webbased interface because I > > think GTK is a superior technology for creating an interactive > > interface. According to my opinion a gtk interface will be much easier > > to maintain and extend in the long run (things like autocompletion, > > syntaxcheck, etc can be easily implemented with a custom > > gtk.TextBuffer and gtk.TextView ). > > I would phrase the third line in the above paragraph like this...GTK > is a superior technology for creating an interactive interface because > of the relative ease with which features like autocompletion and > syntax checking can be implemented, maintained, and extended, rather > than phrasing that you think it is a superior technology. > > > > > > I think this can be accomplished during the relative short period of > > Summer of code by using existing technologies. I want to rewrite the > > rendering part of Symbide to use a gtk.TextBuffer/gtk.textView > > approach like reinteract. To render formulas I intend to rewrite the > > print_MathMl part of sympy. For the rendering of the MathMl I intend > > to use gtkmathview. As a plotting technology I will use matplotlib, > > because it is widely used and provides wide range of plot styles. > > > > python http://www.python.org/ > > sympy http://code.google.com/p/sympy/ > > symbide:http://code.google.com/p/symbide/ > > reinteract http://www.reinteract.org/ > > gtkmathview http://helm.cs.unibo.it/mml-widget/ > > matplotlib http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ > > > > I the first phase of the GSOC i will work on integrationg all the > > In the first phase??? > > > > technologies. The following things need to be done: > > > > Work on reinteract to better integrate with Sympy > > > > 1) make sympy formula objects plottable > > Write a function that plots sympy formula objects using matplotlib and > > give the gui the ability to render the plots inside the document. > > > > 2) make reinteract render sympy formulas as MathML > > sympy objects can already be converted into MathML by the function > > print_mathml(). I will rewrite this part of sympy to get high quality > > mathml. The next step is to get the MathML rendered into reinteract, I > > will use gtkmathview. There are at the moment no python bindings for > > gtkmathview I will either write python bindings or render the mathml > > into an svg which can easily be embedded into a GtkTextView. > > > > 3) Rewrite the rendering Part of Symbide to use a gtk.TextBuffer/ > > gtk.TextView approach > > > > In the second phase of the GSOC i will work on the GUI > ....GSOC I will > > > > > > 4) Work on the GUI to make sure it is easy to access the CAS commands > > (Plotting, differentiation, Loading Files, etc..) without knowing the > > exact commands > > > > 5) Work on the GUI to allow non executable code inside a document > > > > 6) Define a file format for the worksheets > > > > In the third phase i will make sure it is easy to get started > > ...third phase I will ... > > > > 7) Write documentation > > > > 8) Set up a website. Create example worksheets and present them on > > the website to encourage use (a bit likehttp://demonstrations.wolfram.com/) > > > > > 9) Create a Forum to collect possible use cases in order to direct > > future development > > > > On 31 Mrz., 20:20, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 6:58 PM, PhilippStrack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > > > thank you very much for pointing me to ipython1. I started reading > > > > about it and I love approach they take. Regarding my application I > > > > think that it will be easy to later use Ipython1 as a backend. I will > > > > try to get in contact with Benjamin Ragan-Kelley to avoid doing work > > > > that is already done > > > > > I suggest you to subscribe to ipython-dev, and ask there, as I did > > > (see my link above). > > > > > Because not only Benjamin, but also people like Fernando Perez and > > > Brian Granger will let you know what they think, > > > as all of them are developing ipython1. > > > > > Generally it's good to discuss similar things on the list, because as > > > you can see, it's a very effective way to quickly get the idea > > > analyzed from all sides. > > > > > Ondrej > > I would suggest to print and revise to eliminate any other errors. > Also, follow the suggestions of Ondrej and other SymPy developers to > improve the content of your application.
First, thanks for the updated application. Second, let me thank Saroj for the suggestions, I agree with all of them. Third, I still haven't seen your email to ipython-dev list. :) The application deadline was extended to April 7, so you still have plenty of time. IPython guys are really cool and I myself have learned a lot of thinks from them and besides that, it's important to get in touch with people doing similar things, so that you can leverage each other's work. If you write them, I am sure they'll have constructive comments too. Thanks, Ondrej --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To post to this group, send email to sympy@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
