An update on the proposal. Following a suggestion on the talk page, I have dropped "sometimes" from the proposal page and replaced it with "conditional", a tag expressing more information and in greater use.
A few other refinements have be made on the proposal page. After trial tagging with artisan and finding it useful for bakery, I will likely include artisan on the proposal page. Still considering dropping artisan_sweet as a confectionery type and introducing the artisan tag to the confectionery part of the proposal. Any objection? The concept of produced_on_site and/or outlet is useful, but still looking for feed back. Will one work without the other? Does outlet=no always mean produced_on_site? Having both allows ranking style tags: produced_on_site=most. As far as terminology, other than the Oxford dictionary, most reference sources do not use an "at a discount" qualifier to define outlet. Typical definition of outlet: "a commercial establishment retailing the goods of a particular producer or wholesaler". Distinguishing between local and commercial outlets is useful. Is outlet=yes/no/local/commercial better of worse than local_outlet=yes/no, commercial_outlet=yes/no? Two other possibilities for the tag: "supplier" or "producer" with values [on_site], local, commercial; neither is really in use as a tag. Still leaning toward separate produced_on_site tag so it can be used with yes/only/most/some/few/no. If this remains muddy, I may put this as a discussion paragraph on the proposal page rather than an entry in the "use with" tag table. Any other feedback that would refine the proposal and remove objections before a vote would be appreciated. I will likely open the proposal for voting within the week, leaving off any unsettled "Useful Combination" tags. The link to the (revised) proposal page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal/Shop%3Dbakery,confectionery Murry
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