totally agree with that. On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:32 AM <osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au> wrote: > > For me, the situation (as it should be, not as it is) is pretty clear. > > > > > > > > Landuse describes how the land is used. > > > > residential, industrial, commercial, retail, military, farmland, forestry, ... > > > > None of these have a fixed implication of what's on the land. > > > > > > > > Landcover describes what's on the land. > > > > grass, scrub, trees, concrete, ... > > > > None of these have a fixed implication if the landcover is natural or man > made or managed. > > > > > > Any point on the map has one actual landuse and one actual landcover. > > > > > > You can have an area tagged as landuse=forestry and inside that area (or > partially overlapping it) you have a mix of areas with landcover trees, > grass, scrub, rock, whatever. > > > > > > If you have some trees in a backyard, that's landcover=trees in > landuse=residential. > > > > > > If you have a forest that's just been completely logged and is just starting > to regrow, that's landuse=forestry, landcover=scrub (probably, I'm sure > someone can come up with a proper sequence of landcovers for an area that > goes from trees to stumps and back to trees). > > > > > > That landuse=forestry is what landuse=forest should be, but it has been > completely burned by misuse to paint the map green and there is no way to > recover from that really. > > > > And landuse=grass doesn't make any sense at all. I'm not aware of any place > where "grass" would be an appropiate land*use*. > > > > If you are growing grass for animals, that's farmland or meadow. If you are > growing it because you want to sell it as rollout grassm that's farmland. > > > > If it's beside a road, that's either landuse=highway (if it's still part of > the public right of way) or part of whatever landuse (residential, > commercial, ...) describes the area outside the road. > > > > If it's "municipal greenery" it's probably either landuse=highway (if it's > still part of the public right of way) or landuse=recreation_ground. > > > > No matter what, *grass* is not a land*use*. It's what happens to *cover* the > land to fullfil some other *use*. > > > > > > From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:24 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] The endless debate about "landcover" as a top-level tag > > > > btw., we have only been discussing the term forest for landcover=trees, but > there are other places where trees grow, e.g. orchards, groves, copses, > bosks, thickets. We do have orchard as a tag, but we do not have anything > specific for copses and groves (some might be mapped as orchards?). Thickets > are generally mapped as natural=scrub? Bosk is a synonymon for grove? > > > > What about the distinction "forest" and "wood"? Is a wood smaller and a > forest denser? > > > > Cheers, > > Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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