I don't think so. Really the only thing throwing this off seems to be the same thing throwing off people who think bus and bicycle lanes shouldn't be counted as lanes: the solid line.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 11:50 Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems to me that the key attribute of the 'climbing lane' situation > that Dave mentions is that it's an additional lane. It's provided for > slow-moving vehicles, sure, but that's really a special case of the > near-universal convention that slow-moving traffic gives way to > overtaking traffic by moving to the outside (that is, in North > America, to the right). The difference, at least where I am, between a > climbing lane and another ordinary lane is a subtle one: you don't > have to move to the outside if nobody's trying to overtake, rather > than a "keep right except to pass" rule. You get 90% of the way there > by simply having the correct number of lanes:forward and > lanes:backward. Is adding a lane that much more complicated than > drawing a parallel way? > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:31 AM Joseph Eisenberg > <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'd say that it would be better to leave them unmapped than to > incorrectly map them as separate service roads. > > If they are only divided by a single painted line, they are just lanes, > not a separate roadway. > > And it's not too difficult to split the way twice and paste on a couple > of tags > > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:17 PM Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Wow, thanks for the help, Markus. I really appreciate it. > >> > >> But I must say, if I have to use that method to tag all the turnouts on > the Sterling Highway, I'm going to leave them unmapped. Life is too short > and there is a lot of other mapping yet to do in Alaska. > >> > >> Although these lanes are not physically separated by a barrier other > than a painted line, I'm going to opt for the service road scenario. It is > simple, much, much less error prone to map, and IMHO, would do the job > better than the lanes technique. > >> > >> Thanks to all, > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:51 PM SelfishSeahorse < > selfishseaho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 11:17, Dave Swarthout <daveswarth...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> > I'm still not convinced the lanes:smv tagging scenario is the best > solution but were I to change my mind, how would I tag my turnouts? Here > is another screen shot of the particular section of highway with a turnout > on both sides of the road that I've been discussing (59.752103, -151.766395 > ) with the ways removed for clarity: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/nm6iahw9ch79tuh/slow_vehicle_turnout.jpg?dl=0 > >>> > >>> I would probably split the road at every place where an additional > >>> lane begins or ends, i.e. four times, and would tag the sections as > >>> follows from right to left (this is the direction of the highway way): > >>> > >>> lanes=2 > >>> > >>> lanes=3 > >>> lanes:forward=2 > >>> lanes:backward=1 > >>> smv:lanes:forward=|designated > >>> overtaking:lanes:forward=yes|no > >>> > >>> lanes=4 > >>> lanes:forward=2 > >>> lanes:backward=2 > >>> smv:lanes:forward=|designated > >>> smv:lanes:backward=|designated > >>> overtaking:lanes:forward=yes|no > >>> overtaking:lanes:backward=yes|no > >>> > >>> lanes=3 > >>> lanes:forward=1 > >>> lanes:backward=2 > >>> smv:lanes:backward=|designated > >>> overtaking:lanes:backward=yes|no > >>> > >>> lanes=2 > >>> > >>> In case the turnouts were separated by a barrier, i think your idea > >>> with highway=service + service=slow_vehicle_turnout would make sense. > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Markus > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Dave Swarthout > >> Homer, Alaska > >> Chiang Mai, Thailand > >> Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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