The solid line is a special case. So many other turn-outs/climbing
lanes/... have a dashed line or even no line at all. I wouldn't make a
difference based on markings.
I also strongly favor the lines solution but wonder if we could not
stretch the turn key a bit. Something along
turn:lanes:forward=through|turn-out.
/Tobi
Am 10.09.2018 um 19:54 schrieb Paul Johnson:
I don't think so. Really the only thing throwing this off seems to be
the same thing throwing off people who think bus and bicycle lanes
shouldn't be counted as lanes: the solid line.
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 11:50 Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com
<mailto:kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It seems to me that the key attribute of the 'climbing lane' situation
that Dave mentions is that it's an additional lane. It's provided for
slow-moving vehicles, sure, but that's really a special case of the
near-universal convention that slow-moving traffic gives way to
overtaking traffic by moving to the outside (that is, in North
America, to the right). The difference, at least where I am, between a
climbing lane and another ordinary lane is a subtle one: you don't
have to move to the outside if nobody's trying to overtake, rather
than a "keep right except to pass" rule. You get 90% of the way there
by simply having the correct number of lanes:forward and
lanes:backward. Is adding a lane that much more complicated than
drawing a parallel way?
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:31 AM Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>
> I'd say that it would be better to leave them unmapped than to
incorrectly map them as separate service roads.
> If they are only divided by a single painted line, they are just
lanes, not a separate roadway.
> And it's not too difficult to split the way twice and paste on a
couple of tags
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:17 PM Dave Swarthout
<daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Wow, thanks for the help, Markus. I really appreciate it.
>>
>> But I must say, if I have to use that method to tag all the
turnouts on the Sterling Highway, I'm going to leave them
unmapped. Life is too short and there is a lot of other mapping
yet to do in Alaska.
>>
>> Although these lanes are not physically separated by a barrier
other than a painted line, I'm going to opt for the service road
scenario. It is simple, much, much less error prone to map, and
IMHO, would do the job better than the lanes technique.
>>
>> Thanks to all,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:51 PM SelfishSeahorse
<selfishseaho...@gmail.com <mailto:selfishseaho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 11:17, Dave Swarthout
<daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > I'm still not convinced the lanes:smv tagging scenario is
the best solution but were I to change my mind, how would I tag my
turnouts? Here is another screen shot of the particular section
of highway with a turnout on both sides of the road that I've been
discussing (59.752103, -151.766395 ) with the ways removed for
clarity:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nm6iahw9ch79tuh/slow_vehicle_turnout.jpg?dl=0
>>>
>>> I would probably split the road at every place where an additional
>>> lane begins or ends, i.e. four times, and would tag the
sections as
>>> follows from right to left (this is the direction of the
highway way):
>>>
>>> lanes=2
>>>
>>> lanes=3
>>> lanes:forward=2
>>> lanes:backward=1
>>> smv:lanes:forward=|designated
>>> overtaking:lanes:forward=yes|no
>>>
>>> lanes=4
>>> lanes:forward=2
>>> lanes:backward=2
>>> smv:lanes:forward=|designated
>>> smv:lanes:backward=|designated
>>> overtaking:lanes:forward=yes|no
>>> overtaking:lanes:backward=yes|no
>>>
>>> lanes=3
>>> lanes:forward=1
>>> lanes:backward=2
>>> smv:lanes:backward=|designated
>>> overtaking:lanes:backward=yes|no
>>>
>>> lanes=2
>>>
>>> In case the turnouts were separated by a barrier, i think your
idea
>>> with highway=service + service=slow_vehicle_turnout would make
sense.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Swarthout
>> Homer, Alaska
>> Chiang Mai, Thailand
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