On 15/04/19 22:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
That's an interesting example. Was the wheel put there as a landmark
or route marker, or just for fun?
I don't know. I would assume as a landmark, to form a meeting place or a simple
navigational aid. I don't even know if the present wheel is the original one.
If the tag "place=locality" didn't exist, how would you tag this?
I'd ask here, that is one of the things this group is good for.
On 4/15/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
As an example of a locality that has never had a population
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/117041320
/The Wheel/ (a car wheel - no tyre) was originally mounted on a tree by
bushwalkers to mark the hub of the Blue Labyrinth's ridges.
No one has ever lived there. Plenty of people go past, and it still a
navigational feature.
Fairly certain other localities have their stories to tell too.
n 15/04/19 17:23, Warin wrote:
From the original start of place=locality
/All current place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger
areas of County sized or bigger. The place=locality tag is useful for
places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any
geographic feature or population centre that could be used to attach a
name tag to. /
That to me suggest that places that locality can be a place that had
population, or places that did not have a population.
But, I agree, that places that had a population would be better tagged
disused:/abandonded: place=hamlet/town/village/city
I think that can go on the wiki for locality... under 'when not to
use' with the others there.
/
/
On 15/04/19 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
sent from a phone
On 15. Apr 2019, at 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The most important value would be one for a locality that is a former
populated place but no longer has a population.
I’ve always understood the population part of the locality tag
definition as a way of saying the place name does not relate to a
settlement or dwelling (but it doesn’t necessarily mean nobody is
living around there, it means this name is not for an inhabited
place). A generic tag for a place name/ toponym, to be used where no
specific tag has yet been developed.
(e.g. we have specific tags for toponyms that refer to mountain
peaks, wetlands, lakes, islands, deserts, caves, settlements, etc. so
we don’t use locality for them)
I’m not sure I’d support locality subtags, for lots of things a main
tag might be more fitting with the established tagging system, but it
depends on the actually proposed values.
For ghost towns (settlements) I’ve found a lot tagged as
abandoned:place=hamlet/village/town
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values
which seems inline with the rest of our tagging and is by far more
frequent than any “ghost” variations.
Cheers, Martin
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