> Can you give an example of one of these groups of named islands? If they are close together and divided from other islands in the area, I would use “archipelago”.
Here's a small group of only two islands that is definitely not an archipelago, (as I understand that term, i.e., a "chain" of islands), and have one name to describe both islands, the Leland Islands: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20287799#map=14/58.6562/-135.9916 In this case, the original mapper didn't tag them as a multipolygon but applied the place=island tag to the group as a node. I fact, he didn't even bother to redraw the horrible PGS coastline to separate them into individual islands. Alaska has hundreds of these island groups. On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:12 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15/04/19 22:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > That's an interesting example. Was the wheel put there as a landmark > > or route marker, or just for fun? > > I don't know. I would assume as a landmark, to form a meeting place or a > simple navigational aid. I don't even know if the present wheel is the > original one. > > > > > If the tag "place=locality" didn't exist, how would you tag this? > > I'd ask here, that is one of the things this group is good for. > > > > > On 4/15/19, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As an example of a locality that has never had a population > >> > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/117041320 > >> > >> /The Wheel/ (a car wheel - no tyre) was originally mounted on a tree by > >> bushwalkers to mark the hub of the Blue Labyrinth's ridges. > >> > >> No one has ever lived there. Plenty of people go past, and it still a > >> navigational feature. > >> > >> Fairly certain other localities have their stories to tell too. > >> > >> > >> n 15/04/19 17:23, Warin wrote: > >>> From the original start of place=locality > >>> > >>> /All current place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger > >>> areas of County sized or bigger. The place=locality tag is useful for > >>> places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any > >>> geographic feature or population centre that could be used to attach a > >>> name tag to. / > >>> > >>> That to me suggest that places that locality can be a place that had > >>> population, or places that did not have a population. > >>> > >>> But, I agree, that places that had a population would be better tagged > >>> disused:/abandonded: place=hamlet/town/village/city > >>> > >>> I think that can go on the wiki for locality... under 'when not to > >>> use' with the others there. > >>> / > >>> / > >>> On 15/04/19 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >>>> > >>>> sent from a phone > >>>> > >>>> On 15. Apr 2019, at 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg > >>>> <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The most important value would be one for a locality that is a former > >>>>> populated place but no longer has a population. > >>>> > >>>> I’ve always understood the population part of the locality tag > >>>> definition as a way of saying the place name does not relate to a > >>>> settlement or dwelling (but it doesn’t necessarily mean nobody is > >>>> living around there, it means this name is not for an inhabited > >>>> place). A generic tag for a place name/ toponym, to be used where no > >>>> specific tag has yet been developed. > >>>> (e.g. we have specific tags for toponyms that refer to mountain > >>>> peaks, wetlands, lakes, islands, deserts, caves, settlements, etc. so > >>>> we don’t use locality for them) > >>>> > >>>> I’m not sure I’d support locality subtags, for lots of things a main > >>>> tag might be more fitting with the established tagging system, but it > >>>> depends on the actually proposed values. > >>>> > >>>> For ghost towns (settlements) I’ve found a lot tagged as > >>>> abandoned:place=hamlet/village/town > >>>> > >>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values > >>>> > >>>> which seems inline with the rest of our tagging and is by far more > >>>> frequent than any “ghost” variations. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, Martin > >>>> > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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