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On 7. Sep 2019, at 02:35, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> +1, this is exactly how I see it as well > > Is this how the tag has been used in Rome and in other areas that you > know? I'd like to add this to the page Tag:leisure=sports_hall to help > clarify how it's different from a sports centre, but I want to confirm > that this is the "de facto" meaning. I have to put the „exactly“ into relation, from my understanding the sports centre is a place on its own grounds, maybe outdoor, indoor or both (speaking of Rome it will mostly be outdoors), just as Chris wrote, and the sports hall is often part of a bigger structure like a school but it could also be part of a sports centre, and it might eventually be standalone as well. The main difference is that a sports hall is about a single building made for sports, often part of a bigger structure (which may not be a sport structure), while a sports centre is about a standalone feature in my understanding (but at least not in Tübingen as you will see). Unfortunately this reading was not backed up by actual mapping in Germany I have looked at, where sports halls had been double tagged as sports centres as well, sometimes not even with a specific building tag (or with a school building tag on a sports hall building) eg in Tübingen: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24921681 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/612606612 https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8499979 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/44842737 no typological tags in 10 years and 8 versions: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32649732 one sports facility (in Tü) of a school is even tagged as stadium (and school building): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35741685 but if this is a stadium, most of the others I listed would qualify as well. no sports related tags at all: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/136783867 These are all public sports facilities of schools. A privately run sports hall double tagged as sports centre: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/409499240#map=19/48.51061/9.04052 Generally I think we shouldn’t mix up (as it is currently done in the town of Tübingen) „general“ sports facilities (which are typically accessible for everyone, provided they pay/become member of a sports association), with sports facilities in schools, which are at most in certain limited times accessible to other people than pupils. But this is wishful thinking, looking at the above examples. Cheers Martin
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