Paris is the capital of France because it has all the main government facilities: the legislature, the executive, the judiciary and most ministries.
Routes that are mapped in Openstreetmap need to be signed or marked in a visible way. Otherwise every Stava user will add their favorite training loop to the map as a running route or road cycling route. Joseph On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 2:02 AM Florimond Berthoux < florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Asking me how do I know that Eurovelo 3 is for tourism or bicycle trekking > is like asking me how do I know that Paris is the capital of France. > « Is there a sign saying that Paris is the capital of France? May be we > should remove that tag, don't you think?... » > > You don't need sign post to have a route, do you have a sign post at the > intersection of those routes ? > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.1485/-4.1705 > I doubt that. > > This is how the Wiki define a route: > « A *route* is a customary or regular line of passage or travel, often > predetermined and publicized. Routes consist of paths taken repeatedly by > people and vehicles: a ship on the North Atlantic route, a car on a > numbered road, a bus on its route or a cyclist on a national route. » > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route > > So to paraphrase this for road biking route : > « A road bicycle *route* is a customary or regular line of passage or > travel, often predetermined and publicized as such. Road bicycle routes > consist of paths taken repeatedly by road cyclist. » > > And if you don't know then don't tag it and don't manage it. > > Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 23:35, Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > I am not against distinguishing more types of cycling routes, I am > all for it, as long as it's verifyable, mappable with clear tagging, and > manageable. > > > > +1 > > > > I started using Openstreetmap because I wanted to add touring routes > > and recreational bike routes in RideWithGPS and then found out that > > http://ridewithgps.com uses Openstreetmap data which I could edit. And > > I get to work and take kids to school and shop by bike - I haven't > > owned a car for 9 years. > > > > So I would love to have more information about what streets and roads > > are best for getting from point A to B, and which ones are nice for > > training rides and which ones are fun for tours. > > > > But tags have to be verifiable: if the next mapper can't confirm that > > a tag as right, the data in Openstreetmap will not be maintained > > properly. Subjective tags cannot work. > > > > I have seen this happen: before I mapped here, I used to try to > > improve the bike routes in Portland Oregon for Google Maps. But since > > there was no definition of a "preferred" bicycle street, and it was > > hard to delete a preferred route once it was added, the bike layer was > > full of disconnected segments. Some were from old city maps of bike > > routes, some were based on the personal preference of the mapper, and > > some were actually signed or marked on the ground, but you couldn't > > tell them apart. > > > > If there is a sign or marking that specifies that a certain route is > > designed for mountain bikes or for bike racing, then sure, you can tag > > that. But most bike routes do not have anything to specify that they > > are more for commuting or more for recreation, and in that case we > > can't tag the distinction. > > > > Fortunately, database users (like routing applications) can look at > > other Openstreetmap data, like surface=* tags on ways, and external > > data like elevation models, to determine if a route is a difficult > > single-track trail through the hills versus a flat paved path along a > > canal, and use this to help route cyclists appropriately. > > > > - Joseph Eisenberg > > -- > Florimond Berthoux > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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