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> On 8. Apr 2020, at 12:35, Steve Doerr <doerr.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Whether that's what it means in OSM is another matter.


While building=public seems defined, I have difficulties with building=civic, 
which is according to the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Civic.2FAmenity

“for any civic amenity” (and explicitly lists e.g. “toilets”). In 
OpenStreetMap, amenity is used for the service that is provided, not for the 
building. And the term “civic” isn’t defined (I could imagine different people 
thinking about different things for “civic”). This was introduced in 2014, 
while the short definition since the page was created states: 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dcivic


A building hosting any civic amenity (town hall, library, swimming pool).


Now, this is better as it names the building and has a list that is less 
questionable, but also where most of us wouldn’t probably add “toilets” (as 
they are only examples and no definition of civic amenity is given, it remains 
still unclear).

For example I’m asking myself  whether structures like wastewater treatment or 
recycling centers would qualify as building=civic. Or shopping malls? Cinemas? 
Private gyms? Power stations? Universities? Restaurants?


I’ve looked at random internet dictionaries, Cambridge doesn’t have a lemma for 
civic building and defines civic “ of or belonging to a city or citizen”
(not very helpful I’d say)

lexico has a definition that would  make sense as hypothetical intention of the 
OpenStreetMap tag:

https://www.lexico.com/definition/civic

Relating to a city or town, especially its administration; municipal.

Collins says You use civic to describe people or things that have an official 
status in a town or city.

IMHO the building=civic page should be discussed and improved, ideally by 
giving a definition rather than a list of examples 

Cheers Martin 
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