Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> writes: > While building=public seems defined, I have difficulties with building=civic, > which is according to the wiki
public building appears to have its origin as a legal term, and I don't see it as a type of building at all. In the US the term might be "public accomodation" and an example might be the notion that if as part of what you do the public comes to buy food, watch a play or anything else like that -- even if it's private property and you charge them, and could tell disagreeable people to leave -- then you have obligations to provide access to disabled people. But this doesn't mean that "public accomodation" should be any kind of top-level tag; at best it's a minor property saying if these sorts of rules apply. > A building hosting any civic amenity (town hall, library, swimming pool). My sense (en_US) is that this means "some kind of function that is 1) broadly available to the public and 2) operated by the government". > For example I’m asking myself whether structures like wastewater > treatment or recycling centers would qualify as building=civic. wastewater treatment, no - public is not welcome. It is industrial. recycling center; Probably. > Or shopping malls? Cinemas? Private gyms? No, all just random private things the public goes to. > Power stations? No, public unwelcome. industrial > Universities? No. Often not government, sometimes is, but it is a thing all by itself and calling it civic is not helpful. > Restaurants? No. Not government. We have an amenity=restaurant tag. Labeling the building is not helpful. Plus, often there are multiple things in a building, and one tenant does not define the building in any useful sense. I think building=civic blurs use and government/not and shouldn't be used *at all*. To me, this is an example of people searching for tagging, disconnected from an articulated purpose of how data consumers would use the tags. > I’ve looked at random internet dictionaries, Cambridge doesn’t have a > lemma for civic building and defines civic “ of or belonging to a city > or citizen” (not very helpful I’d say) It's not helpful. (Civic also can be used as "civic duty" and "civics class".) > IMHO the building=civic page should be discussed and improved, ideally > by giving a definition rather than a list of examples I think it should be withdrawn entirely. _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
