On 2020-07-31 8:21 a.m., Andy Townsend wrote:
On 26/05/2020 00:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
Has this edit war stabilised?

Apparently it has been blocking coastline updates across the whole world for /months /now.

https://osmdata.openstreetmap.de/data/land-polygons.html
https://github.com/fossgis/osmdata/issues/7

(picking this thread up again because there still hasn't exactly been a meeting of minds here)

land polygons have been generated (see https://osmdata.openstreetmap.de/data/land-polygons.html ) and https://github.com/fossgis/osmdata/issues/7 has been resolved by manually "releasing" the coastline.  The current situation in OSM is https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WD8 - at the time of writing this the coastline crosses the river north of Buenos Aires.

However, edits are continuing (see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/88787419 ).  I'm not convinced that moving to one of two extremes, even a small amount at a time, is a good idea until there's actually been discussion between the proponents of the various positions.

For what it's worth, neither extreme position looks the best answer to me - looking at the salinity change between river to ocean at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0307904X07000716 (see https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0307904X07000716 for the key picture) and looking at https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Rio_de_la_Plata_BA_2.JPG suggests a location some way between the two.  Despite the NASA photo it looks like there isn't a "step change" in salinity - and of course values will fluctuate based on winds and tides etc


I live near the coast and have done coastline processing, including a great deal worldwide during the redaction.

Salinity and territorial control have seldom been considerations in where the break between water mapped as waterway=riverbank and natural=coastline that I have seen. The break is chosen as a convenient place for mappers and a common view of where the coast of the ocean is, not based on scientific salinity criteria. For territorial control, look at all the inlets along the BC or Norwegian coasts.


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