I see that despite this discussion, TomTom is proceeding with its quixotic quest to get mappers to tag surface tags on motorway, just now in other countries:
https://maproulette.org/browse/challenges/37540 Would you care to inform the community what it is that you're trying to accomplish here? On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 12:49 PM David Salmon <david.sal...@tomtom.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > > > Thank you for the discussions and pointers. I’ve disabled the challenge > for now and will re-evaluate with the team. > > > > Much appreciated, > > David > > > > *From:* Brian M. Sperlongano <zelonew...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2023 4:04 PM > *To:* David Salmon <david.sal...@tomtom.com> > *Cc:* Matthew Whilden <matthew.whil...@gmail.com>; Eric H. Christensen < > e...@aehe.us>; Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>; talk-us < > talk...@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette Challenge - Add Surface to > Highways > > > > You don't often get email from zelonew...@gmail.com. Learn why this is > important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> > > If all you care about is paved vs unpaved distinctions for routing, you > can safely delete the challenge, because all highway=motorway in California > are paved. > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2023, 3:12 PM David Salmon <david.sal...@tomtom.com> > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Thank you for the questions. I checked with a couple of colleagues and > Surface is used in some applications if users want to avoid Unpaved roads > during a route. > > > > I don’t sense a consensus yet on the approach of using Paved versus a > specific surface value. Would you prefer that I make the challenge Not > Discoverable until there’s time to conclude the discussion? > > > > Alternately, if there’s a topic of higher priority or interest that you’d > like to see created as an editing challenge or existing challenge where > TomTom could support, I’m open to suggestions. > > > > All the best, > David > > > > *From:* Matthew Whilden <matthew.whil...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2023 2:01 PM > *To:* Eric H. Christensen <e...@aehe.us> > *Cc:* Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>; David Salmon < > david.sal...@tomtom.com>; talk...@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette Challenge - Add Surface to > Highways > > > > You don't often get email from matthew.whil...@gmail.com. Learn why this > is important <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> > > If you want to use the data for non-routing questions I'm sure specificity > can help. Like, imagine I want to estimate road maintenance costs by > latitude or something of that shape. > > > > Matt > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:28 AM Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us < > talk...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > ------- Original Message ------- > On Wednesday, January 25th, 2023 at 11:35, Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Why do we need surface=asphalt vs surface=concrete for highway=motorway? > > > > Does this make a significant difference for any users? > > > > I can certainly see the value of adding unpaved surface values for other > classes of roads, but all motorways in the USA (and likely worldwide) will > be paved > > I can see that being an assumption but unless you verify that to be true > you can't just summarily add that kind of data to the set. > > Does it make a difference? I'm not sure. There are definitely friction > coefficient differences between the two surfaces and I'd be willing to bet > that one would be more efficient to travel across than the other. Perhaps > routing engines could use this information to provide an even better, more > efficient route. Of course, that is just an idea. > > R, > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-us&data=05%7C01%7CDavid.Salmon%40tomtom.com%7C872b38297c7f40a16f8008db00a9fa93%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C638104502387667628%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gVMqJeathm4pviL9HoCKbcP7hHbawS4rS2e2n2Ei8HI%3D&reserved=0> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > talk...@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.openstreetmap.org%2Flistinfo%2Ftalk-us&data=05%7C01%7CDavid.Salmon%40tomtom.com%7C872b38297c7f40a16f8008db00a9fa93%7C374f80267b544a3ab87d328fa26ec10d%7C0%7C0%7C638104502387667628%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gVMqJeathm4pviL9HoCKbcP7hHbawS4rS2e2n2Ei8HI%3D&reserved=0> > >
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