Thanks Kristy, I would support the idea of discerning the difference between CCBY and ODBL. THe intent of the open data policy is to make data useable with minimal restriction, and ODBL seems to be an appropriate instrument for handling this in database format. CCBY seems ok for maps but not for databases.
I got in touch with OSM contributor Michael Cleary last week who was visiting GA as part of the Power of Maps conference. He outlined pretty well what he sees the issues are viz ODBL vs CCBY4.0. I am beginning to get a clearer picture on what these issues are and am keen to get it resolved, but will need continued feedback from the OSM community on this. This is also worth bringing up in the Foundation Spatial Data Framework policy discussions which I am heavily involved in. FSDF also needs to consider the role of volunteered geographic information in the update of national foundation spatial datasets - so there is even greater imperative to have OSM involved in those discussions. The use cases included in the email trail are excellent examples of the need to get this sorted. Thanks, Simon Simon Costello Branch Head, National Location Information | EGD Management Environmental Geoscience Division | GEOSCIENCE AUSTRALIA ____________________________________________________________ Phone: +61 2 6249 9716<tel:+61%202%206249%209716> Fax: +61 2 6249 9999<tel:+61%202%206249%209999> Email: simon.coste...@ga.gov.au<mailto:simon.coste...@ga.gov.au> Web: www.ga.gov.au<http://www.ga.gov.au/> Cnr Jerrabomberra Avenue and Hindmarsh Drive Symonston ACT GPO Box 378 Canberra ACT 2601 Australia<x-apple-data-detectors://3> Applying geoscience to Australia’s most important challenges On 5 May 2015, at 5:00 pm, kristy van putten <kristy.vanput...@gmail.com<mailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Jason, This is a great tool! The majority of government is trying to move to an open license, with GA leading in the geospatial front. What we need to get our heads around is the difference between CCBY 4.0 and ODBL. Community outreach programs would be great, or even potentially working with spatial institutes such as SSSI to encourage OSM in schools. I will take a look at the import list and see whats happening around the world - your right this might shed a light on potential assistance. As Andrew just pointed out access to imagery would also be very beneficial, I will look into this a bit further and see what can be done there (specially ACT to start with). I will start to contact the super users in ACT. Cheers On Tue, 5 May 2015 at 16:44 Jason Ward <jasonjwa...@gmail.com<mailto:jasonjwa...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Kristy, Not a large userbase in the ACT and not all of them may subscribe to this list. To help you in your search the following link may prove useful (Suggest unticking Black, Red and Orange users in the top left corner for a closer measure of 'active' contributors) http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=11&lat=-35.29175&lon=149.17885&layers=B00FFFFFTT While I don't represent the contributors in ACT it would be great if (the whole of) government was able to provide or make accessible data with suitable licence clearances for use in OSM. Despite that and noting the small contributor count in the region maybe more 'useful' would be the application of resources to help with the contribution of data OR some sort of government advocacy/community growth initiative with the long game being to build the local contributor base. To adapt a recent phrase from another list, OSM is a collection of on-the-ground observations and while there is a place for supply of government information, and notwithstanding your Indonesian HOT experience, your time would be well spent looking at some of the imports carried out in other parts of the world (some good, others less so), as well as subscribing to the @imports list (if you haven't done so) for a view into the workings OSM members apply to externally supplied information. Cheers, Jason M: 0438740049<tel:0438740049> On 5 May 2015 at 16:11, Kristy Van Putten <kristy.vanput...@gmail.com<mailto:kristy.vanput...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi All, I am searching for active OSM contributors in ACT, if you are one please email me or contact me via my mobile. I am interested to get your thoughts on the current state of OSM in ACT and if there is any aspect the government can assist in. 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