Andrew,
   Thank you for all the hard work and achieving this key element. I would
like to look at all level numbers to standardise these and to go forward.
Also happy to have a dabble of the import process and associated doco.

I would like to aski if it is possible to
1. add the ability to have, possibly at [*5*], the Aboriginal nations e.g.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Map_Victoria_Aboriginal_tribes_(colourmap).jpg
and
2. swap  *6 Local Government Area (eg Shire/Council) *and *7 District or
Region (e.g Perthshire, Fitzroy, Canning, Greater Sydney, Greater
Melbourne, etc.) *as normally these areas are large than a singular LGA.

Ewen



On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 at 16:25, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The Department of Industry, Innovation and Science which manages
> data.gov.au have just completed the OSMF CC BY waiver allowing the PSMA
> Administrative Boundaries[1] to be used within OpenStreetMap[2].
>
> Quoting their email, "The Australian Government received great
> encouragement from PSMA Australia Limited to make the AB [Administrative
> Boundaries] data more accessible. Many thanks to OSM for your ongoing
> global open data efforts."
>
> Others more active in working with admin boundaries in OSM might be able
> to comment further on my analysis, but I've taken a look at the current OSM
> data from a planet extract[3], using osmium tool to extract administrative
> boundaries[4]:
>
>     osmium tags-filter australia-latest.osm.pbf
> nwr/boundary=administrative -o osm-admin-boundaries.osm.pbf
>
> Then converted to GeoPackage to open in QGIS to compare to PSMA boundaries:
>
>     ogr2ogr -f GPKG osm-admin-boundaries.gpkg osm-admin-boundaries.osm.pbf
>
> The admin_level values for Australia are defined as[5]:
>
> 3 n/a
> 4 State or Territory
> 5 n/a (but used in Victoria for regions[6])
> 6 Local Government Area (eg Shire/Council)
> 7 District or Region (e.g Perthshire, Fitzroy, Canning, Greater Sydney,
> Greater Melbourne, etc.)
> 8 Postcode
> 9 Suburb and Locality
> 10 Suburb and Locality
>
> (not sure why the split across 9 and 10...? but it looks like no data for
> 9 and all suburb/localities are marked as 10, a seperate discussion but
> perhaps they should be 9 and smaller neighbourhoods be in 10?)
>
> PSMA Admin Boundaries provide (for Australia wide Shapefiles see [7] built
> from [8])
>
> Commonwealth Electoral Boundaries (I don't think should be included in OSM)
> State Electoral Boundaries (I don't think should be included in OSM)
> State Boundaries
> Local Government Areas
> Suburbs / Localities
> Town Points
> Wards
>
> admin_level 6 LGAs
> It looks like NSW, VIC have complete LGA coverage already aside a few
> minor differences, but NT is patchy and TAS, QLD, WA are almost
> non-existent (ACT doesn't really have LGAs it's all managed by the
> Territory). SA is missing a few LGAs which exist in the PSMA data.
>
> admin_level 7 is a mixed bag, but the PSMA data won't help here
>
> suburbs/localities
> NSW, VIC, SA all have pretty much complete data in OSM but there are a
> number of differences with the PSMA data which should warrent investigation
> and correction.
>
> ACT I think has good existing data (in the PSMA data in suburb/localities
> there are both levels, eg. Canberra Centre and Parkes), but the districts
> have a slightly different name format.
>
> All other states are empty in OSM.
>
> Keeping in mind that we have state data for admin boundaries in VIC
> (VicMap), NSW (Spatial Services), ACT (ACTmapi) and SA (data.sa.gov.au)
> already.
>
> So there does appear to be a lot of data missing in OSM, which licensing
> wise we could bring in to OSM. So I guess the question is should we and how
> should we do that. Is anyone interested in working on this? If people are,
> I think it should go through the proper import process (discuss first,
> identify the process and then execute).
>
> [1] https://data.gov.au/dataset/psma-administrative-boundaries
> [2]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Department_of_Industry_Innovation_and_Science_ODbl_permission_Administrative_Boundaries.pdf
> [3] http://download.openstreetmap.fr/extracts/oceania/
> [4] https://osmcode.org/osmium-tool/manual.html#filtering-by-tags
> [5]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries
> [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_Victoria
> [7] https://tianjara.net/data/psma-admin-bdys/
> [8] https://github.com/andrewharvey/psma-admin-bdys-data
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Warm Regards

Ewen Hill
Internet Development Australia
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