Thanks Ian, that's a very good point re: consistency with orchards & plantations. Whether this style of mapping will actually prove to be broadly useful, time will tell I suppose, but seems better to start off aiming for consistency.
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 06:41, Little Maps <mapslit...@gmail.com> wrote: > That’s an interesting development in OSM micro-mapping John. Can I put a > vote in for using natural=tree_row rather than barrier=fence, if no better > options are available. I’m not arguing from the point of rendering, but > from the perspective of developing a tagging scheme that will be useful in > other orchards and even perhaps timber plantations, if future mappers > extend this process. Most (all?) orchards and plantations have woody plants > in rows, but only a few have fence-like trellises. Natural=tree_row would > be suitable for a wide range of orchards and plantations whereas > barrier=fence is much more restricted. It would be a pain if the almond > plantations and citrus orchards in a region used one tagging scheme while > the nearby vineyards used a different one. I’m certainly glad I don’t have > to map them all! Best wishes Ian > > On 16 Oct 2020, at 8:37 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Resending message to the list :-( > > How do we fix it so that "Reply" goes to the list, not just the last > poster? > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:20 > Subject: Re: [talk-au] vine row tagging > To: John Bryant <johnwbry...@gmail.com> > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 16:34, John Bryant <johnwbry...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Well, they want to map rows, to use OSM in a way that will be useful to >> the viticulture community. The idea is to add more detail to vineyards than >> is currently in OSM, which has vineyard areas but not rows. >> >> To some degree, but for viticulture people it would be useful to use >> *actual* rather than assumed locations. >> > > Fair enough. > > Referring to the OSM carto rendering? That's a good point. What else could >> we use to describe a vine row? >> > > As Brendan mentioned, mark them in as fences, which will show a nice > straight line, although that could be called tagging for the renderer! :-) > It wouldn't be altogether wrong though, as they do form a barrier to > movement across the rows! > > do features like vine rows belong in OSM? Does the difficulty in finding a >> tagging schema for vine rows point to an incompatible feature type? I had >> assumed that because they're readily observable on the ground, and >> relatively persistent, it would make sense to map them... but if there's a >> reason they shouldn't be in OSM it would be good to know, so the folks I'm >> helping can change course. >> > > I guess that's a question of what do the end-users want to see about > "their" land? Most would probably be happy just to see it as a vineyard, > but if somebody wants extra detail, is it up to us to say "No"? I wouldn't > have said so, myself! > > Thanks > > Graeme > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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