Thanks Brendan, this is an interesting idea! There's definitely some interest in capturing data at the vine level, but it presents some complications for some in the viticulture community, so vine rows are seen as a suitable level of abstraction for this stage.
barrier=fence... also interesting... made up of vines on wires running between posts, the typical vine row is quite fence-like. Thanks John On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:49, Brendan Barnes <brenbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Depends of level of detail sought, but each grapevine could be marked as > natural=shrub <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dshrub>. > > My first thought was to use barrier=fence > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dfence>, but the wiki > defines it as a "freestanding structure designed to *restrict or prevent > movement across a boundary*". > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 17:46, Adam Steer <adam.d.st...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey John >> >> What are the owners of the properties containing vines saying? Are they >> fully aware that their farm data will be open for everyone to see? >> >> ...and what data/tagging useful to them? >> >> Cheers, >> Adam >> >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 08:40, John Bryant <johnwbry...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> So, map the strainer posts on the ends of the rows, rather than the rows >>> themselves, and then the end user could use them to interpolate the row? >>> That's an interesting idea. >>> >>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:33, nwastra <nwas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Many vineyards have numbered rows with a tag on the end strainer posts >>>> to assist direction of workers, etc. >>>> These could be numbered using the addr interpolation scheme and then >>>> individual rows would not need to be mapped but does need a close survey. >>>> >>>> On 15 Oct 2020, at 3:32 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 14:13, John Bryant <johnwbry...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking more broadly, it looks like vine rows haven't been widely >>>>> mapped before. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Do you need to? >>>> >>>> I think it could be automatically assumed that all vineyards have their >>>> vines in rows, approx the same distance apart? >>>> >>>> I noticed vine_row_orientation >>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:vine_row_orientation>=* : >>>> vine row orientation (in degrees)on the wiki page - wouldn't that be >>>> sufficient? >>>> >>>> For vine *rows* (ie. the linear features within the vineyard), we've >>>>> had suggestions of natural=tree_row, >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you were going to put a tree_row on every row of vines, you'd have >>>> nothing but a solid mass of them! >>>> >>>> denotation=agricultural, >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry, not sure what you mean with this? >>>> >>>> and crop=grape, >>>>> >>>> >>>> Marked as being redundant as all vineyards grow grapes! :-) >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Graeme >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-au mailing list >>>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Talk-au mailing list >>>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >
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