Thanks Graeme, I appreciate your response, answers to your questions below.
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 13:32, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you need to? > Well, they want to map rows, to use OSM in a way that will be useful to the viticulture community. The idea is to add more detail to vineyards than is currently in OSM, which has vineyard areas but not rows. > I think it could be automatically assumed that all vineyards have their > vines in rows, approx the same distance apart? > To some degree, but for viticulture people it would be useful to use *actual* rather than assumed locations. > I noticed vine_row_orientation > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:vine_row_orientation>=* : vine > row orientation (in degrees)on the wiki page - wouldn't that be sufficient? > That seems good for vineyard areas, but isn't needed for rows, which is what we're trying to figure out tagging for. > For vine *rows* (ie. the linear features within the vineyard), we've had >> suggestions of natural=tree_row, >> > If you were going to put a tree_row on every row of vines, you'd have > nothing but a solid mass of them! > Referring to the OSM carto rendering? That's a good point. What else could we use to describe a vine row? > denotation=agricultural, >> > Sorry, not sure what you mean with this? > This was a suggestion that came to us, it's relatively commonly used for trees and tree rows, but I'm not sure if it makes sense for vine rows, which is why I'm asking :) and crop=grape, >> > Marked as being redundant as all vineyards grow grapes! :-) > Yes I agree for vineyards. But specifically thinking about vine rows for this tagging. I guess these comments raise the question, do features like vine rows belong in OSM? Does the difficulty in finding a tagging schema for vine rows point to an incompatible feature type? I had assumed that because they're readily observable on the ground, and relatively persistent, it would make sense to map them... but if there's a reason they shouldn't be in OSM it would be good to know, so the folks I'm helping can change course. Cheers John
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