Thanks Andrew. You are clearly well-informed on the availability and use of ABS data.
Population size correlates fairly closely with the range and level of services that are available in a place. I support using population data to determine city/town/village/hamlet classification. On Fri, 6 Oct 2023, at 6:20 AM, Andrew Davidson wrote: > On 5/10/23 18:01, cleary wrote: >> the small central district? Or is it the much larger Tamworth LGA? I >> think it would include the suburbs but not the outlying >> towns/villages in the LGA. There are also city/suburbs such as "City >> of Ryde" which is the name of a local government area in the Sydney >> metropolitan area but the actuality is that, for all practical >> purposes, Ryde is a suburb of Sydney. > > The ABS has population stats at different geographical levels. For > Tamworth we have LGA: > > Tamworth Regional: 63,070 > > This would be the population you would put on the admin_level 6 > boundary. From the suburb and localities you get: > > Tamworth: 189 > > This would be the population that would go on the admin_level 9 > boundary. From the urban centres and localities you get: > > Tamworth: 35,415 > > This is the population of the settlement, which I have been adding to > the place node. The UCL is the ABS's attempt to answer the question > "what is the population of ....?" > >> >> Leaving aside cities and suburbs, our discussion has mainly been >> about non-city rural areas. While there may be some fuzziness around >> the population of the business and residential districts of a >> settlement and whether the population in its surrounding areas should >> be counted, I would support population numbers as a reasonably >> objective and useful determinant of town/village/hamlet status. > > How to subdivide an urban settlement into subdivisions is another set of > problems. > > I would prefer a system based on just population, but I got the feeling > that we wouldn't get agreement on that, as we have mappers who want to > adjust. _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
