I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. Currently, the ones I added (in West-Flanders) are the only ones with a name like "Arrondissement Roeselare", a big part of the others don't exist yet, but they have a name like "Antwerpen". I'm all in favour of uniform names, but I want to clarify my choice for including "Arrondissement" in the name.
1. When people refer to "Antwerpen", they might mean the province or the city, but never the arrondissement. If they mean the arrondissement, that's always mentioned. And I believe that the name tag should reflect what people use to refer to the object. 2. This is also in the choice of the names of Wikipedia articles: They name the articles Antwerpen (stad)<https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28stad%29>and Antwerpen (provincie) <https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_%28provincie%29>, so the appended (stad) or (provincie) is just a clarification. But the article of the arrondissement gets the name Arrondissement Antwerpen<https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrondissement_Antwerpen>which means it's part of the name. 3. We can't expect non-OSM members to learn the mapping of the different admin_levels. So if someone searches the Kerkstraat in Brugge, and they return with a result of the Kerkstraat in Heist inside Brugge, they could wrongly think that they have the right street. While if the result would show the Kerkstraat is in Heist, arrondissement Brugge, the user might know it's wrong. 4. Some people want to index the streets per city (to have a quicker search). Because other countries use different admin_levels for their city boundaries, the only current way is searching the city node and the boundary that goes with it by the name tag. By using the city name for the arrondissements, these tools could get confused. (this last part is mainly the fault of Germany, where different admin_levels are used for different importance of cities). This also makes that Nominatim can't automatically add "Arrondissement" to make the search result of #3 more clear. Off coarse, setting the name to "Arrondissement Antwerpen" also makes the life of the mapper a bit easier (it's easier to browse through the different boundary relations), but this is of lesser importance than having the right data. I have also made a little vote on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Belgium/Boundaries#Arrondissement_names If you don't like discussions, or your opinion is fixed, you can cast your vote.
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