Marc,

situation 1 should do the job, without splitting the way after the
intersection. There is clearly a situation of obvious connectivity here (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:It%27s_so_funny)

Cheers, Johan

2014-09-11 12:04 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>:

> I've been trying to map destinations on primary roads as well. Therefore I
> asked the following question on the help forum a couple of weeks ago, but
> never got an answer:
>
> I want to tag the destinations on a sign like
> http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2014/20140810-Herentals/i-ZQhq2MT/A It is
> located here <http://osm.org/go/0Ep4vj5pV-?m=&relation=3894019>. You see
> it on your right before a crossing with traffic_signals, while driving on a
> primary road.
>
> I know the wiki pages on destination
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination>, the destination
> sign relation
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign> and some
> proposed extensions
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Destination_details>
> .
>
> However, I'm not sure about the best way to map the example sign. I see
> the following possibilities
>
>    1. as destination-tag on the way after the crossing
>    2. as a destination relation
>    3. as destination:lane on the way before the crossing
>
> or a combination of the above ?
>
> In case of 1 - the destination tag, do I have to split the way after the
> intersection ? Or do I let it extend as far as the current way ?
>
> I do not consider the exit_to tag which is sometimes used in the USA.
>
>
> What you might not see is that there is one lane for left turns, one for
> through and the right most lane is for through and right.
>
> Any thoughts on that ?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sander,
>>
>> I've been thinking about your statements.  Although I think you are not
>> incorrect stating it should be easy to enter, I think your requirements
>> to not use josm at all for this (with or without plugins) are a bit to
>> demanding.
>>
>> I'm a text console kind of person, all day long. I love the vi(m) editor
>> but I'm not so inclined into xml-diving some OSM change files.
>> Maybe I misunderstand this, but a good plugin in JOSM would probably
>> help a lot in taking the edge of editing.
>>
>> There are other things that are hard to edit.   Try the new speed_camera
>> scheme for example:  although I get what they are trying to do, it's
>> complicated and for a camera that does 2 jobs (red light + speed trap)
>> you have to add a single relation for each.
>>
>> Although this might signal a possible bad design, it doesn't make it a
>> bad one by default.  So, I'm not convinced on the 'clearly doing
>> something wrong'.  On the other hand, it's not a great design either.
>>
>> The only thing that I think is in the wrong place are the translations
>> of a destination. (technically then).  But I have to remind myself all
>> the time it's not a relational database design I'm discussing.
>>
>> I do aggree on the subject that smaller roads are probably more
>> important for all the reasons you state.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11-09-14 10:23, Sander Deryckere wrote:
>> > Marc, you are right that I don't like the tag because of missing tools.
>> > But on the other hand, I think tags should be easy to edit, even without
>> > tools. If adding the tags becomes harder than surveying, we're clearly
>> > doing something wrong.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > Since we have more small roads than motorways, the tags should be easy
>> > enough for anyone to add. Without having to use JOSM with some extra
>> > plugins.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Sander
>>
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