Thanks Johan. also for the link your page explaining connectivity:lane. I had not heard about that one before. but now I have to go over all my work of the past few months to add that tag where needed :-)
What I mean with splitting the outgoing road, is how far do we want the destination to extend: til the next crossing, even when that is kilometers away ? or the other extreme, split the street after a few meters, so that future mappers won't split the street further on, and still keep the destination tag on both segments ? So you won't add lanes:destination before the crossing ? (just to make sure) regards m On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Johan C <osm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Marc, > > situation 1 should do the job, without splitting the way after the > intersection. There is clearly a situation of obvious connectivity here ( > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:It%27s_so_funny) > > Cheers, Johan > > 2014-09-11 12:04 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: > >> I've been trying to map destinations on primary roads as well. Therefore >> I asked the following question on the help forum a couple of weeks ago, but >> never got an answer: >> >> I want to tag the destinations on a sign like >> http://xian.smugmug.com/OSM/OSM-2014/20140810-Herentals/i-ZQhq2MT/A It >> is located here <http://osm.org/go/0Ep4vj5pV-?m=&relation=3894019>. You >> see it on your right before a crossing with traffic_signals, while driving >> on a primary road. >> >> I know the wiki pages on destination >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination>, the destination >> sign relation >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign> and some >> proposed extensions >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Destination_details> >> . >> >> However, I'm not sure about the best way to map the example sign. I see >> the following possibilities >> >> 1. as destination-tag on the way after the crossing >> 2. as a destination relation >> 3. as destination:lane on the way before the crossing >> >> or a combination of the above ? >> >> In case of 1 - the destination tag, do I have to split the way after the >> intersection ? Or do I let it extend as far as the current way ? >> >> I do not consider the exit_to tag which is sometimes used in the USA. >> >> >> What you might not see is that there is one lane for left turns, one for >> through and the right most lane is for through and right. >> >> Any thoughts on that ? >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sander, >>> >>> I've been thinking about your statements. Although I think you are not >>> incorrect stating it should be easy to enter, I think your requirements >>> to not use josm at all for this (with or without plugins) are a bit to >>> demanding. >>> >>> I'm a text console kind of person, all day long. I love the vi(m) editor >>> but I'm not so inclined into xml-diving some OSM change files. >>> Maybe I misunderstand this, but a good plugin in JOSM would probably >>> help a lot in taking the edge of editing. >>> >>> There are other things that are hard to edit. Try the new speed_camera >>> scheme for example: although I get what they are trying to do, it's >>> complicated and for a camera that does 2 jobs (red light + speed trap) >>> you have to add a single relation for each. >>> >>> Although this might signal a possible bad design, it doesn't make it a >>> bad one by default. So, I'm not convinced on the 'clearly doing >>> something wrong'. On the other hand, it's not a great design either. >>> >>> The only thing that I think is in the wrong place are the translations >>> of a destination. (technically then). But I have to remind myself all >>> the time it's not a relational database design I'm discussing. >>> >>> I do aggree on the subject that smaller roads are probably more >>> important for all the reasons you state. >>> >>> Glenn >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11-09-14 10:23, Sander Deryckere wrote: >>> > Marc, you are right that I don't like the tag because of missing tools. >>> > But on the other hand, I think tags should be easy to edit, even >>> without >>> > tools. If adding the tags becomes harder than surveying, we're clearly >>> > doing something wrong. >>> >>> ... >>> >>> > Since we have more small roads than motorways, the tags should be easy >>> > enough for anyone to add. Without having to use JOSM with some extra >>> > plugins. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Sander >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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