Call it wishful thinking, but what I want that plugin to do is the following:
1. add the corresponding tags on the selected ways, which the sign affects 2. add BE:A1b or something of the kind on a node next to the way. This node is placed where the actual sign is. It now becomes possible to see where the tags on the way came from, call it a source, call it fuzzy, if that makes you feel better. I call it redundancy and I don't see a problem with that. What I'm not sure of, is whether we should also add BE:A1b (doesn't exist, I know, it's an example) to the ways. Anyway, at the moment the plugin doesn't work that way. I created a few tickets with enhancement requests: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11080 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11081 http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/11082 Please keep in mind it's work in progress. I asked for help on this mailing list twice. Feel free to help out. The file is on the wiki, it's easy to edit it, if you spot any errors in it. I think it may be needed to run josm-latest if you want to see the plugin in action. It might have made it into the josm-tested which comes out tomorrow, but then there will be some bugs still in it, that I'm ironing out at the moment. It may also have nothing to do with latest/tested. Not sure. Cheers, Jo 2015-02-07 0:09 GMT+01:00 André Pirard <a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com>: > On 2015-02-05 22:57, Jo wrote : > > Hi, > > Over the past days, I adapted the data file for the road sign plugin for > Belgium. > > I'd like to ask you to test it. > > Install the plugin the usual way and select something. Look at the top > right corner of the tags pane on the right. A little icon was added there, > press it and choose BE. > > Now it becomes easy to tag traffic signs and their effects on the ways > they apply to. I'm going to ask the developers for some improvements, but > it is functional already. > > I suppose that you mean JOSM/Plugins/RoadSigns > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RoadSigns>. > I have read several times about mapping road/traffic signs and I was > wondering what to use them for. > A traffic sign is obviously tagged on a node, which obviously cannot > indicate a traffic rule applying to a way. > Moreover, traffic_sign=BE:xxx is totally ignored by GPS software. They > don't know country specifics. > Hence I came to the conclusion that traffic signs are just adorning the > map. > Trying to use them for traffic control would induce complete chaos like > for noexit=yes and be the end of routing. > I looked at this plugin and I was reassured that they only use traffic > signs as a visual aid to tag only the well established tags for traffic > rules. > But now I read "to tag traffic signs and their effects on the ways they > apply to" which is very unclear and exactly what the plugin does not. Could > you please explain that clearly, because fuzzy notions won't help the GPS > working, they're full of errors already. > > Regarding tests, it's surprising. I click on the little icon but I see no > "BE to choose". > If I click Setting, I see several countries but not Belgium. > I clicked on a node and it added maxspeed=30 on that node, which a plugin > should advice novices not to do. > Please notify. > > BTW, source:maxspeed=zone30/signal is incorrect because a zone 30 or > signal is not a source of information. > The correct form is maxspeed:type=zone30/signal because they are a type of > speed limit. > But now I see that this plugin uses zone:maxspeed=DE:30 > I wonder what is a DE:30 speed limit is and I regard zone:maxspeed=30 as > the undisputed ultimate solution. > > During my few tests, I somehow popped up a > Highway/Street/Restrictions preset showing > highway=secondary > bicycle=yes > which is wrong. > > That's the result of the tests I made. > > André. > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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