On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:32 PM, John Whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So it looks as if we'll just have to wait until the > mess gets straighten out. Do you have any idea what happens if we ALL take that attitude? There is no "them" in OSM, it's an "us" type community. > I found two on OSM, one wasn't active and the other, Marc Sensei, didn't > respond. Have you given him time to check his incoming mail and respond? It is easy to miss items sitting in the OSM inbox, and if the user uses JOSM or another offline mapping method, they might not log onto OSM for extended periods of time. > My premise of just dropping in the Geobase data was based on the > fact I could only identify two other Ottawa mappers. So it look as if not > much had been done so far especially on the GPS side. Thus doing the job > quickly would save any more effort until we ended up with the clean map. Just for reference, here's what the OSM map looks like when there's "not much being done" in an area. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=65.2780&lon=-126.7932&zoom=17 This link is for Norman Wells, NWT. There are no local mappers in the area. If you zoom out, you'll find the MacKenzie River which was created by a JOSM Lakewalker plugin on Feb 10, 2009. If no one works in the area, nothing happens. The Ottawa area looks like it has much more information than Norman Wells, so we have to assume that the OSM community has actually been working in the area. History information backs up that assumption. > Then the idea was given a decent set of roads to leverage some of the groups > I come across on the planning side to add tags. I don't think the Ottawa > OSM map is mature enough to suggest it to them at this point in time with > its missing segments of roads etc. Perhaps in a couple of years when its > straighten out. It may never become mature enough then if everyone waits for "magic" to happen. > Bye the way someone made a comment that I'd only mentioned two items being > over 100 meters off. It's now at least three and they were off in different > directions. All were in locations with clear sky above, I assume they were > satellite tracings. Have you corrected these items? If not, then when you look at them in a couple years, they might still be located in the wrong place. Do you yet understand that OSM is a community project, and it takes investment by the community to create a usable product. If you don't want to invest the time and effort to help further the project, then you might just want to look at investing your cash into a commercial mapping solution. Nothing is free... OSM espouses to be "free as in speech", but someone has to invest the effort in making the noise... by helping to map the area, you are making the noise that others can listen to. If you sit on your hands and wait, it takes that much longer for everyone else to produce a product for your consumption. Perhaps your professional background is getting in the way of understanding that not everything in the world is a product that is produced by someone else, and simply purchased when needed. Sometimes you have to roll up your sleeves and help yourself. I found a footpath that you added to the map, so I know that you know how this works. James VE6SRV _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
