2012/10/18 Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org>

> Eric,
>
>    I have the impression that you are trying to make a large conflict out
> of a small issue. The overwhelming majority of the French OSM community has
> never had an issue with DWG, yet you are trying to cast this into a "the
> French community against the DWG" battle.
>
> You are even instrumentalising those who would, on their own, not have any
> problem with following the existing guidelines and creating a separate
> account; they would prefer to simply play by the rules but you make them
> into your pawns by telling them "no! the French community suggests that you
> do not create a separate account for imports, just ignore what those DWG
> people tell you!"
>
> You're talking as if you want to solve the issue amicably but you don't;
> when you talk of "sustained efforts" then these efforts are basically
> concentrated on getting it exactly your way. In this whole discussion I
> have never once seen any offer of compromise by you or others.
>
> Your talk of "anti-social behaviour" is unacceptable, and your attempt at
> singling out Paul Norman as your scapegoat is just as bad. If Paul weren't
> blocking users who violate the rules then I would, or another member of DWG.
>
> I have the impression that you are fighting a personal vendetta here
> because you were personally asked to follow the separate-import guideline,
> you rejected that, and you got blocked. Now it's ok if you're unhappy and
> you're free to say that, but in attempt at styling this into a "the whole
> French community is on my side, I have done nothing wrong" battle you are
> actually abusing the French community for your cause.
>
> The separate import account rule is not a "proposed" rule and it is valid
> for France just as it is valid for any other place. I would sincerely ask
> every member of the French community to create a separate import account if
> they plan to import large quantities of Cadastre data - Eric is now using
> an account named "Marcussacapuces91 - Cadastre" and I think that is a good
> and useful convention.
>
> (I say "large quantities" - if someone just imports his local city quarter
> then certainly nobody is going to complain.)
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
> --
> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frede...@remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
>
>
> Hi (salut),

I discovered this stream just now (j'arrive un peu après la bataille),

Please note, I am not Eric (both) ; I am Marcussacapuces91 &
Marcussacapuces91 - Cadastre
(Je ne suis pas Eric, aucun des deux cités, je suis ...)

Yes I made a second account, just because DWG bugging me (j'ai créé un
deuxième compte parce que le DWG m'a cassé les pieds) and I needed to go
ahead to contribute (et que j'avais besoin de continuer à contribuer).
But in fact it's a pitty to switch twice a session : some time I use
Cadastre Import, next Bing, next local knoledges... so some(many)time I
forgot to switch and all my contributions are now mixed
(mais c'est vraiment pénible de changer de compte, j'utilise le cadastre,
puis bing, puis des informations du terrain), des fois (souvent) j'oublie
de changer de compte et maintenant mes contributions sont toutes mélangées).

DWG is here to protect agains quality issues, vandalism, but in fact that's
not the point with Cadastre Import (Le DWG est là pour s'occuper de
problèmes de qualité de vandalisme, mais ce n'est pas le sujet ici).

This (no sens to me) guideline is just another technical step to refrein
contribution : it's just simply bad. (cette règle (vide de sens à mes yeux)
est juste un frein technique de plus à la contribution : c'est mal.

Regards (salutations),

-- 
Marc Sibert
m...@sibert.fr
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