Moreover, when some opening hours are present in your data set they represent 
the opening hours of the supermarket, neither the 24/7 automatic station nor 
the o.h. of the station when operated with personal for the payement.


Jean-Yvon


> Gesendet: Freitag, 30. März 2018 um 00:47 Uhr
> Von: "Philippe Verdy - verd...@wanadoo.fr" 
> <osm.sanspourriel.935cdd9262.verdy_p#wanadoo...@ob.0sg.net>
> An: "Discussions sur OSM en français" <talk-fr@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import station essence
>
> Le 29 mars 2018 à 21:34, Stéphane Péneau <stephane.pen...@wanadoo.fr> a
> écrit :
> 
> > Résumons :
> >
> > tl;dr
> > It's better since you choose not to overwrite the existing opening_hours,
> > but the French community still refuse this import as is.
> >
> > - A lot of "new" amenity=fuel are already in Osm
> > http://audit.osmz.ru/browse/navads_fuel/NVDS346_54a1ba689826bf65d6a31b83
> > http://audit.osmz.ru/browse/navads_fuel/NVDS368_545f7bfa82efa41a49637ace
> > Your conflation tool should check the existing fuel stations in a larger
> > area.
> >
> > - Most opening_hours are wrong.
> > A lot of fuel stations can be use 24/7 with a bank card
> >
> 
> Automated 24/7 services may be, but this is generally not available for all
> services, just a few kinds of fuels. And these automats are also not very
> friendly: you jsut insert your credit card, they immediately request an
> authoirization for a large amount of money, which is locked on you credit
> card limits (weekly or monthly) and also by your bank for some time, until
> the station will finalize the transaction for the effective amount of fuel
> you took.
> And many drivers (notably the poorest ones) cannot use at all these
> automats, or don't want to use it because of how they manage the
> transaction: so they'll go to stations only on real opening hours where
> only the effective amount to pay will be paid and taken on their credit
> card, or they will be able to pay with cash (when their credit card has
> exhauisted its weekly or montly maximum, for example on a few days after
> they paid their house renting costs, or if they had to pay some other
> important bill, even if for that they opted to take a credit).
> 
> A "24/7 automat" does not mean the station is open 24/7; so the
> opening_hours should not apply to the presence of such automats which
> should be completely ignored and tagged separately.
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