On 31/10/15 19:51, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> It's the constant moaning whenever something changes that annoys me >> > most. All the effort that volunteers put in to create and improve the >> > style, to run the servers, to write the blog posts and announcements >> > and all we get from Lester is moan moan moan. I've had enough, to be >> > frank. > I'd like to broaden this a bit - it's not only about map styles, and not > only about Lester's complaint.
My only complaint is that many decisions are still unilateral rather than considered. Personally I could be contributing a lot more to the software if it was using main stream tools rather than some of the exotic elements that seem to be the in thing because of someone's pet interest. But that is a problem across a whole gamete of open source projects these days. We are now stuck with some elements which are less than ideal and have to now work around them, so perhaps it is time to isolate the data even further from the graphical tools and make it easier to use with all tools? How much bigger would the programmer base have been if a different base had been adopted at the start. It's problematic enough adding python, perl and java to a base of C/C++, PHP, javascript, css and html without adding Ruby into the mix, and the spiralling range of tools and libraries 'improving' javascript, css and the essential responcive browser interfaces is spreading everything thinner and thinner. I'm looking at the OHM rendering problem, and Kartotherian is now being pushed from that side and I can't see why we have to be using different bases to do exactly the same job? Why can't we have a single base? SO I repeat what I said earlier? Is there ANYBODY who has an interest in creating a simple generic system for creating material across the whole spread of data that we have to work with. Initially targeting the vast range of UK current and historic data. A vector based rendering system is probably the right way to go and the OSMAND rendering works well and as far as I can tell ALLOWS a selectable rendering style? But that is yet another tangent and ring fenced solution :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb