Thanks Dudley, I loose track of the definitions you sometimes get in business, and to confirm we are looking for "aims" here. The objectives would be the "projects" I mentioned in a previous email.
The bit on "use" probably does need expanding as Robert W also mentioned it. If anyone has any further ideas please let us know :-) Regards, *Rob* On 4 January 2016 at 20:01, Dudley Ibbett <dudleyibb...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi Rob > > > > It seems that if we are thinking about charitable organisation we need to > be careful about whether we are talking about “aims” or “objectives”. Quoting > : > http://www.ces-vol.org.uk/about-performance-improvement/about-monitoring-evaluation/planning-for-monitoring-evaluation/aims.html > “Aims are the changes you are trying to achieve.” and “Objectives are the > methods or activities by which you achieve your aims”. > > > > My initial thought for an objective was: “To facilitate and encourage > the development and use of Openstreetmap in the UK”. Although this looks > like more of an “aim” according to the above. > > > > I do think including “use” is important. There are clearly large data > users but this also works down at an individual level. I started by > using an OSM map on my Garmin for example before I then became involved in > improving the map. So encouraging use could well lead to more > development. I also think that using the map helps feedback into > improving the overall quality of development. > > > > Personally I’m not sure about “increase the number of data contributors” > as a primary objective. I know of a chair for one organisation that > decided that this was very important and ended up undermining the aim of > the organisation. I also not that keen on “keep their motivation”. It > strikes me as quite a difficult objective to achieve and assess the > organisations success against, given how many individual motivations seem > to exist in the OSM community. > > > > Perhaps we need to restructure this with aims and objectives to achieve > these. If we want to keep the option of a charitable organisation open > then presumably the aims will also need to be “charitable”. > > > > Kind Regards > > > > Dudley > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 23:12:25 +0000 > From: rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org; rj...@cantab.net > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] UKOSM or OSMUK or OSMGB proposed aims > > > On 3 January 2016 at 16:45, Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Proposed aims for UKOSM: > >> > >> The aims of (eventual name) are: > >> > >> To increase the number of data contributors;develop their skills and > keep > >> their motivation so that new contributors become active mappers to > improve > >> and maintain OpenStreetMap data in the UK. > >> > >> To provide a national point of contact for UK organisations wishing to > use > >> OSM data or contribute data to OSM. > >> > >> To engage in activities and provide services that are consistent with > >> achieving these aims. > > > > Robert W wrote: > >I think those are all good. From a personal point of view (and to > >allow more flexibility if we want to) I'd also like to see: > > > >* Something more explicit to allow the group to create / support / > >encourage the use of tools to improve OpenStreetMap data in the UK. > >(The first point above could be read as just focusing on the mappers, > >rather than the wider aim of improving the data by any other means.) > > > ><snip> > > Hi Robert, > > I think your first point is already covered in Brian's first. As a general > note (as I was getting confused whilst discussing this at the mapping event > last week) the aim here is to get a high level set of aims. To test them > you should ask yourself "does my project idea fit within the aims". In this > case I think tools to improve data ("the project") would be one solution to > the "keep them motivated [...] to improve [...] OpenStreetMap data" in > Brian's first point. To use the earlier phrase Get, Train, Retain (or > Obtain, Train, Retain if you prefer :-) ) then this would be part of the > Retain strategy. Shout out if you disagree and I may be incorrectly > interpreting. > > Your other point on data users is a good one. I'll let others weigh in > with their views but I was also thinking that "facilitate the [...} > contribution of data [...] to OSM" is needed. This is the "promote the > release of OpenData" but put in a way that also covers other data sets. I > like your wording here. > > Best, > *Rob* > > _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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