*If* there are used for looking up addresses, then there is some very slight advantage to having them -- I still occasionally see websites/people referring to Avon :-)
Neil On 26/08/2018 23:49, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > To repeat, They do exist, but only as a record of old data, not > current. just as there's a record of Humberside & Avon. That they > don't get altered is irrelevant. > > I disagree about their legality. > > DaveF > > On 26/08/2018 23:01, Adam Snape wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Both Colin and Dave have repeated the implication that the >> traditional counties don't exist. It's very much arguable I guess, >> certainly successive governments have made clear that they recognised >> the continued existence of the traditional counties, and that >> administrative changes neither legally abolished nor altered these >> counties. >> >> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 22:01 Colin Smale, <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl >> <mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>> wrote: >> >> Except that the "ceremonial counties" actually do exist, and >> serve a function. They are formally called "Lieutenancy Areas" >> and represent the jurisdiction of the Lord Lieutenant as direct >> representative of the monarchy. Their boundaries are maintained >> by a different legal process to the admin areas, and on occasions >> can diverge for a limited period until they catch up with changes >> to admin boundaries. And then there is the Stockton-on-Tees >> anomaly...the borough is divided between the ceremonial counties >> of Durham and North Yorkshire. >> >> >> Thanks Colin, >> >> Yes, I was aware of how the ceremonial counties are defined. I think >> if we're truly honest with ourselves we don't really map them because >> lord lieutenancies (as wonderfully arcane and obscure as they are) >> are of any real importance, but because they provide a vaguely >> sensible and recognisable set of geographic areas that we can call >> counties. Certainly if administrative importance were genuinely to be >> our criteria for mapping we would be mapping all kinds of things >> prior to lord lieutenancies. >> >> In practical terms lords lieutenant are historic, honorary crown >> appointments and little more. If we actually believed this was >> justification for mapping we could use the same arguments for mapping >> the areas over which the royal duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall >> perform various honorary and historic functions (such as appointing >> the ever-so-important-in-the-present-day lords lieutenant) and >> exercise special rights. Incidentally their legally-defined and >> extant boundaries are the historic/traditional boundaries of the >> counties of Lancashire and Cornwall :) >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Adam >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
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