Re: my comment about shop=vacant. I may have been convinced to use disused:shop=travel_agent + name=Thomas Cook. Not sure whether a vacant shop with no ghost signage would still be a shop=vacant or a disused:shop=yes.
I'm not keen on bulk automated closing everything called Thomas Cook because the world is more complicated than it first seems to be. I favour visual confirmation. Is there a case for automated addition of OSM Notes or Fixmes to stores/locations to ask people to check? - Jez On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 6:54 PM Andrew Hain <andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > We can check for properties where the brand:wikidata tag was left behind > by checking the other tags, particularly name= and shop=. > > -- > Andrew > ------------------------------ > *From:* SK53 <sk53....@gmail.com> > *Sent:* 28 September 2019 17:32 > *To:* Silent Spike <silentspike...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* Talk GB <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops > > The specific problem with that suggestion is that you miss lots of Thomas > Cook shops (particularly old Co-op Travel & Ilkeston Co-op travel): it hits > about 3 within 15 miles of Nottingham whereas there are nearer 11 (for > obvious reasons), and one of those is apparently is not > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/116307151/history> now a travel agent. > > This latter aspect shows that editors other than iD may not surface > Wikipedia/wikidata tags & that therefore such data needs to be > cross-checked, and bulk edits may inadvertently change other things. In > many ways I prefer that we acquire new local mappers (like OftenResident in > Alfreton) who notice that an area is out-of-date & set about getting it > up-to-date, rather than doing a partial update and missing other info (like > the shop is now a hairdresser). Obviously others think we should keep > everything as up-to-date as the information we have available. I don't > think we have ever reached a consensus on this. > > Jerry > > On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 16:41, Silent Spike <silentspike...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > It's unclear to me if there's a consensus on the tagging here. Personally > I like the `disused:` prefix. > > I couldn't see if it was mentioned anywhere, but we can also query for all > the locations explicitly marked as part of the Thomas Cook brand using the > `brand:wikidata` tag: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MFP > > All of the results here can really be automatically re-tagged as disused > or vacant since we explicitly know they were locations belonging to Thomas > Cook (the beauty of wikidata tagging). You might say some may already have > been sold and re-signed, but that can always be tagged after - we at least > know for certain that none of them are Thomas Cook travel agency shops > anymore. > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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