Hi Robert,
I also don’t want to delete the objects completely; as they do exist, so we
should be able to map them.
However, I do take your point that a pharmacy which is not open to the public
is not an “amenity” in OSM. So my 2 “wholesale” pharmacies do not meet the
wiki definition of “amenity=pharmacy: a shop where a pharmacist sells
medications” > “A shop is a place selling retail products or services.”
I think they may both be better tagged as “office=company” (I know that one of
them is also the head office of the company and they both function as offices).
I could add a Note explaining why they are not tagged as “amenity-pharmacy”,
which might deter other mappers from using this tagging, in response to the
flag generated by your excellent tool.
I tried following the link to your proposed new source of “official” data, but
none of the 3 links to the data worked very well for me.
Link 1: (API format) led to http 404 error.Link 2 (CSV(TSV) format – led to
http 404 errorLink 3 (XSV format) downloaded a file with a “.csv” file
extension that seemed to be tab-separated, rather than comma-separated. I took
that into a text editor and did a global Find and Replace of Tab with Comma.
The resultant .csv file loaded into Excel just fine, but it has over 11,000
lines and many of them must now have additional commas, because a number of
fields are right-shifted (Post Code in the Latitude Column, Latitude in the
Longitude Column, etc.) Also, over 700 have Blank in the Address1 Field, with
the whole address in Address 2, Address 3, etc. Then quite a few (from my
sample in the first 30) have County values in the ParentName Field. So I fear
that, unless you can do a better conversion than I did (and you almost
certainly could, I know!) you will have a lot of manual cleaning up to do,
before you can use this data.
The good news is that neither of my “wholesale” pharmacies is in that
downloaded file, so, if you were able to use it as a source for your comparison
tool, it would no longer flag them as “missing pharmacies”.
Good luck and thanks for the excellent tools, which keep me busy, trying to
find missing post boxes, pharmacies and the like.
Regards,Peter
On Wednesday, 15 April 2020, 16:46:43 BST, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
<robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 20:40, Peter Neale <neal...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I looked up my 2 "wholesale" pharmacies on the list. Unfortunately, they are
> both classed as "community", so will continue to be included in your checking
> tool.
>
> So... ...should we:
> a. Continue as we are: Plot them in OSM, tag them as pharmacies, but give
> them a name that makes it clear that they are not publicly accessible?
> b. Delete them from OSM, so that consumers don't think they are publicly
> accessible. (But they do exist and who knows what consumers will really want
> to find?) Then we could ask you to manually delete them from the checking
> tool (but you probably won't want to keep doing that).
> c. Do something else?
I certainly wouldn't advocate any inappropriate tagging just to keep
my tool happy! So if we don't think they should be amenity=pharmacy,
then we shouldn't tag them like that. While they may technically be
pharmacies, I would think that amenity=pharmacy is best reserved for
places that are amenities for the general public to use, which would
rule out option (a). As for (b), I wouldn't necessarily delete the
objects completely from OSM: if there's a business presence on the
ground, that could still be tagged. The question then is whether it's
worth tweaking my tool to remove these false positives. You could just
ignore the "missing pharmacy" markers local to you that you know are
wrong. As you say, I would have a manually maintained "ignore" list,
but that would be more effort for me.
What I'd prefer to to is to switch to a better data source for my
pharmacy list. There is a list of NHS-contracted pharmacies at
https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies
which I think would closer match what we want for amenity=pharmacy,
but unfortunately that list appears to be England only. So I'd need to
find corresponding lists for Wales and Scotland. (NI isn't in the data
I'm currently using. I've found
https://www.psni.org.uk/registration/premises-registration/changes-to-the-premises-register/
but the data is all locked up in PDFs.) Can anyone help out here?
Robert.
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Robert Whittaker
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