i'd like to be part of that project maning! currently uploading trail tracks from banaue to pula to mt. amuyao to barlig :)
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com > wrote: > Bunny, > > We have a few mountain trails already added in OSM. Most mountain > peaks are also there (coming from GNS so this needs correction). > Using the default map and contour, I believe this is useful already > for mountaineers. > > What we need from the mountaineers are: > - more trail/hiking data along with the trail classes > (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale) > - location of peaks/viewpoints/trail stops and other amenities > > I don't know if UPM or other mountaineering groups are aware of our > project or the osmph garmin maps. We can of course design a garmin > map for them, all we need are inputs on how they classify trails. > Perhaps we can have a session with these group to share how to > contribute in osm and then compile their own maps? > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Leonard Soriano > <banito_pi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Eugene, > > > > Magandang project yan! This is actually important as it can be used not > only for recreation purposes but even for search and rescue efforts. > > > > I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a national park that > is frequently visited by visitors both seasoned and not seasoned climbers. > For example Mt. Pulag National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole > year, the benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail and > waypoints has a very high potential. For the past years, I was doing trail > survey data with the UP Mountaineers and we have covered > Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/ and just recently Tinoc trail. > > > > For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT result of the trail > survey can be downloaded from this link: > > > > https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ > > password: @MtPNP_Draft > > > > The trails are already in OSM and some of the waypoints. > > > > For the contour data, I do have a digital files based from NAMRIA 1:50K > topo maps and if our mappers would want to compile this, I can upload it > somewhere for downloads. > > > > Napapanahon itong idea na ito. > > > > --bunny > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers > > To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <sea...@gmail.com> > > Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM > > > > eugene, > > you got my point exactly! > > been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm > was trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very > useful particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the > gps but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps. > > this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the > mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these > mountains plus trail maps and waypoints. > > i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water > source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as > landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep > on asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so and so > kilometers away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to > do this during recent climb to pulag :) > > anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if > i can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :) > > rem > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The > > Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM > > data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data > > (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth > > from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time). > > > > But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding > > another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for > > selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails > > more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone? > > > > Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of > > targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also > > "expand the market" and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin > > map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the > > base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and > > contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular, > > then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the > > rural and mountainous areas. :-D > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora <pompy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also > have > > > the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can > consolidate > > > the two. in maning's page ( > http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin) > > > there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but > the > > > note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered. > > > maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour > maps > > > for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al. > im not > > > sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way > to put > > > contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with > street > > > maps from osm. > > > this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and > > > enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed. > > > just a suggestion guys :) > > > > > > -- > > > Rem Zamora > > > 0916-55-11-407 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > talk-ph mailing list > > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Rem Zamora > > 0916-55-11-407 > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > _______________________________________________ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- Rem Zamora 0916-55-11-407
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