Yes, this is the first message since the confirmation we can use the data. I did a little more tweaking to the StopArea code at the weekend (not that it matters for the WestMids data).
I propose we now do the following: - Download the whole NaPTAN dataset, so to simplify the update process in the future (it'll be easier to merge a complete data set with a single noted timestamp) - Run a conversion and filter on the West Midlands data set for just items in Birmingham. - Show the list 5 or so example stops to show how they've been converted, so we can fix any issues before an import. (And possibly produce a slimmed down slippymap showing the density of data we're importing). If a consensus is reached, we'll run an import under the NaPTAN account. (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/NaPTAN, which I currently have control of). - Allow Birmingham mappers to trawl the data and work on a set of guidelines of how to bring the data more in-line with OSM, where required. - Open the import to other talk-gb regions. I also propose that the official datasets are kept (privately), converted, and uploaded on/from the OSM dev machine rather than one of our personal ones. 2009/3/18 Christoph Böhme <christ...@b3e.net>: > Hi all > > has there been any progress with the NaPTAN import yet? The list has > been very quiet recently. > I started programming the visual merge tool but I have not yet reached > a point where there is something to show. I decided not to modify the > busstop data in the osm database directly but to keep a seperate copy > of the relevant nodes that can be merged into the database at some > point when we tidied it up (basically like the dracos tool does it). > > Just wanted to let you know that I have not given up on the import ... > > Christoph > > Brian Prangle <bpran...@googlemail.com> schrieb: > >> Hi everyone >> >> Summarising where I believe we've got to: >> >> 1. Thomas: schedule for completion - we're entirely in your hands - >> agree it's best to avoid the API update. >> 2. Birmingham only for test import >> 3. No highway=bus_stop tags, enabling us to merge/verify existing OSM >> data ( Christophe's visual tool to eventually solve this manual task) >> BUT tag taxi ranks as amenity=taxi >> 4. Import on the basis of the current selection/naming in naptan >> tagging wiki. Imports to be carried out by new user naptan >> 5. Plusbus zones and stop areas - import the naptan data only and >> leave doing anything with it until the debate on stopareas reaches a >> conclusion >> 6. Roger/Peter: is our current method of accessing the data OK? Or >> do you have to explicitly issue us with a dataset (perhaps the data >> publicly available for test is not the most current/accurate?) >> 7. Andy: agree on re-tagging w mids bus stops with route_ref and using >> semicolons instead of pipes to separate route nos in order to >> standardise - presume you have an automated routine for this? >> 8. Update needed on wiki regarding bus_stops (Andy? I'm happy to do a >> first draft for you to edit before publication - or better still >> submit it to this discussion list) >> >> Parked for later discussion/solution >> >> a)Stopareas (see above) >> b)Big-bang vs regional adoption (probably a talk gb discussion once >> Birmingham data and process completed) >> c)handling NaPTAN bus_stop updates >> d) importing further NaPTAN public transport data >> e) user feedback - there's a wide range of skill and experience in >> the OSM community and there are certain to be problems. An explicit >> route needed? f) how to maintain data integrity once it's imported >> and inexperienced users potentially delete data that other users have >> written applications that rely on it being there. I guess this is >> general problem not specific to this project- but this is a donated >> dataset and potentially could drive a considerable number of >> applications >> >> Unless there are any strong objections,(or I've ommitted anything >> from the discussions) I'd like to think we can close the discussion >> on the import and let Thomas get on with finishing the coding. Thank >> you everyone for your time and contributions >> >> We can continue discussion on the parked items and anything else that >> doesn't impact the coding for the first live Birmingham import >> >> Regards >> >> Brian >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit > -- Regards, Thomas Wood (Edgemaster) _______________________________________________ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
