Hello there, also the bus/tram network of Vienna, Austria is missing: it exists as GTFS in the open government data of Vienna/Austria here: https://www.data.gv.at/katalog/dataset/wiener-linien-fahrplandaten-gtfs-wien Also, the local/regional trains of the ÖBB in Austria is also there as GTFS: https://www.data.gv.at/katalog/de/dataset/oebb_sollfahrplan
Kind Regard RobinD (emergency99) > Am 26.01.2020 um 05:38 schrieb Mark Lester via Talk-transit > <talk-transit@openstreetmap.org>: > > > Hello Mappers, > I've been building this http://buz-map.com, there's a couple of read me's at > the top. There are a stack of issues but this now looks eminently doable. > > My pitch on all this is that people like maps. Give people a map of a > transport network and they will follow the wiggly lines. They will notice > that an island has a connecting ferry and a bus network (see Estonia). > Envisage mountainous and wilderness areas and their transit geography more > easily (see Sweden). Be able to scan an entire metropolis network to it's > extremities without having to use trial and error (see Paris, Prague, > Petersburg, Athens). And generally be intrigued and want to zoom in and > discover. I am not having much success evangelizing this view with regard to > a global transit map. If I can get this to a production state with all known > GTFS, and sex up the high level areas that have no listed transport with a > much deeper road network than you normally get at higher tiers, we will at > least have the "intrigue me" travel map that I personally want. > > Obviously I haven't got very far with the front end. In particular it's not > interacting very well on mobile, it's lousy in fact. I need help in any way > shape or form available but if anyone knows how to get a thin line to > interact in Leaflet on mobile, please suggest. I did try to paint a massive > invisible one on top but it didn't work and I got nowhere with the debugger, > so even help with that would be appreciated. I also want to do funky stuff > like flipping the railways or buses to the foreground on touching. In a dense > centre of a metropolis, being able to flip the metro or tram network to the > top is already an important requirement. The Mapbox stuff does this but I > haven't sussed the layers within tiles stuff and how to do it yet. > > I've got a game plan to fix most of the other bugs, especially in the rail > routing which is quite screwed right now once you zoom in. I will get the > whole of the visible GTFS world on there, so all of USA that's available, and > anything else that I can find. It's going to take a few months, probably most > of the year including downtime. I say visible GTFS, as oppose to existing. > There is an awful lot of bus data that patently exists as it's in booking > engines, and in GTFS form if it's on Google, but isn't anywhere easily found. > > What I want to investigate is to use the reduction method I have to draw > efficient level 8 to 1 vector tiles of simplified road networks. So you can > look at say all of India, US, Canada, China, Russia, Brazil or any area of > that size, and get a decent view of the national road infrastructure even if > I haven't got any bus data yet. I still will need to do some of the same > simple reduction used for doing the detailed lower tier standard rendering of > levels 7-16, i.e. filter road classifications down once it becomes an > unavoidable mess even with reduction, leaving only motorways for the top two > or so tiers. I think we will get a usable, readable and "representative" map > of these upper layers, which by default are either road light or completely > vacant. The bus network I have in Europe, which is just a tiny subset, is > messy at the high level, I will try to refine it, but the trains work, so I > am sure motorways will too and we'll tune in the lower road classifications > and with appropriate clustering radii as we proceed down the tile tree. > > Any input gratefully received. Apologies for the spam of three lists, please > respond directly unless it's something of interest to more than just me. Also > I am in contact with OSM folks, I know I am using free tile servers. How we > run this as a public self funding service is one of the many things I need > help with. It seems an obvious gimme for anyone selling bus tickets but it's > not easy to get anyone to pick the phone up. I have resigned myself to having > to build a production system in between doing not a lot. > > Mark Lester > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-transit mailing list > Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
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