On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:11:09PM -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: >> Nathan Edgars II <nerou...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 12/21/2011 12:45 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: >>>> In California, carpool lanes are seperated by a painted median. >>> This is what's in dispute. Is the following a median or simply a lane >>> separator? http://www.scvresources.com/highways/118_hov_lane.jpg >> >> Are the HOV restrictions in effect at all times, or only for part of >> the day? The HOV restrictions on inbound highways in Nashville, TN >> are only in effect for certain morning hours on weekdays (inbound >> rush hour), and those on outbound highways are only in effect for >> certain late-afternoon hours on weekdays (evening rush hour). The >> rest of the time, the HOV lanes are treated as normal lanes. If the >> HOV lane restrictions are not 24/7, I would class those as lane >> separators, not medians. Also, if a vehicle with enough passengers >> is allowed to move into/out of the HOV lanes at any point, I would >> not classify the markings as a median, but only as a lane separator. > > In California, most are 24/7. When they're not, they're either closed > to all traffic and treated as dead space, or PSV-only outside HOV > hours. All traffic is prohibited from making lane changes in areas > where the white-orange-orange lines are present, with the general > access lanes functionally being the right shoulder for HOV traffic, > and the HOV area treated as the left shoulder for general access > traffic. Every 1-3 miles where lane changes are permitted, lane > changes in and out of the HOV area is permitted for traffic allowed in > that lane, no other locations. These restrictions are strictly > enforced, as the difference in speed between the HOV lane and general > access is frequently in excess of 60 MPH during peak traffic periods > in sections where the HOV lane is isolated. >
Not at all. California is large and isn't consistent across different counties. I know only a single place where it's like that in northern California. And this is a new and special testing area it's not only a normal HOV lane it's a pay per use at rush hours and free to use otherwise. Cost varies based on traffic. Not exactly a HOV lane where use is allowed for cars with a minimum of 2 or 3 passengers or fuel efficient cars. > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us _______________________________________________ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us