What's frustrating about distinguishing between useful & not useful data imports is that there isn't much information available on the wiki & other documentation about how to distinguish between the two.
At least, I haven't been able to find much of the good information that's in the minds of the old-timers and the comments of this thread on the wiki or other documentation. So... people can take the time to come up with what they think is a good idea, to go looking for guidance, to follow what guidelines are available, to prep data, to find what seem to be relevant & comparable past imports, and then be told in email that what they've been working on is unacceptable. I think this problem is fixable by transferring this knowledge onto the web pages, which is what some of us are trying to do with the wiki. In the mean time, I'm saying it can be frustrating to follow every rule you can find and then to be told you're still doing something incorrectly. FWIW, I'm also sympathetic to the frustrations of people who end up cleaning up after the imports that do go awry. - Jeff On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ian Dees <ian.d...@gmail.com> wrote: > There sure is a huge amount of imported data in OSM, but I don't see > what's frustrating about distinguishing between useful and not-useful data > imports. What we've been discussing here is what sort of data should be > imported and if it's useful. > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jeff Meyer <j...@gwhat.org> wrote: > >> I am very sympathetic to what I sense to be Jason's (and Michael's and >> others') frustrations. It's quite clear there are a *very* large number of >> imports that have contributed to the body of data that is OSM (Incomplete >> list here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Import). >> >> Hopefully, this frustration hasn't gone to waste. : ) I think this thread >> has generated some thoughtful commentary (see: Ian's statements below & a >> great email off-thread that Serge sent me) that I hope will be integrated >> into DWG-sanctioned guidelines for imports. For those not on imports@, >> I've sent a separate note to the DWG asking for clarification on where to >> look for their guidelines. >> >> - Jeff >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Ian Dees <ian.d...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Your original question was "what should the exact criteria be for >>> including an 'open space' parcel in OSM?" and I think your answer is >>> that there shouldn't be exact criteria. As frustrating as it is sometimes, >>> there aren't exact criteria for anything in OSM. >>> >>> Having said that: you should map things that are verifiable by another >>> mapper on the ground (parks, schools, hospitals, named open spaces) and you >>> should not import generic parcel data. You agreed with that in your second >>> sentence, but there were plenty of messages in this thread talking about it >>> :). >>> >> -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347
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