Those pages certainly say that Farm to Market Roads and Ranch to Market Roads exist. I don't see anywhere that says they are part of the same network, or that all Ranch to Market Roads are actually Farm to Market Roads, or vice versa.
Additionally, Urban Roads are certainly not part of the same network because different laws apply to them. They are eligible for state maintenance but must use local funding for expansion. I'm not seeing why this is that big of an issue. It seems quite clear to me that TxDOT refers to FM and RM as two separate (but similar) things, and it is my opinion that they should be tagged as such in OSM. On Jun 20, 2013 7:31 PM, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tpp/hwy/fmfacts.htm Texas refers to the > network as Farm/Ranch to Market or Farm to Market, except Ranch Road 1 and > NASA Road 1 (both of which are part of single-route networks, because > Texas). The last fact I would correct to say "currently" since Oklahoma > formerly had Farm-to-Market roads, every now and then I find a > long-abandoned farm-to-market reference in the name*=* tags tiger imported > in rural Oklahoma. The TxDOT's official glossary identify Urban Road, Farm > to Market and Ranch to Market identically, and an Urban Road as an FM/RM > running through an urban area. > http://www.txdot.gov/inside-txdot/division/transportation-planning/highway-designation/glossary.html > > > Using the TxDOT search system, there seems to be a lot of bikeshedding > within the department on request of locals who want a Farm to Market to be > a Ranch to Market or Urban Road or vice-versa-et-cetra and nothing to > suggest that FM/RM/UR are three different networks. > > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Clay Smalley <claysmal...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I checked the Wikipedia page and couldn't find anything. Could you do me >> a favor and point me to the part of the article you're referring to, and/or >> the cited source? >> >> I'd rather solve this without more mailing list drama, if possible. >> On Jun 20, 2013 9:06 AM, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: >> >>> Check the Farm-to-market page on Wikipedia. >>> On Jun 19, 2013 11:00 PM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Does the Wikipedia bit have a cited source? I can understand that being >>>> true; I just want to verify. The Texas Highway Designation Files list them >>>> as two separate types. >>>> On Jun 19, 2013 8:25 PM, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> TxDOT is cited in Wikipedia as documenting them as being the same >>>>> network (farm to market), and no RM and FM have the same number. They >>>>> just >>>>> change the sign to RM when the route primarily passes through ranches >>>>> instead of farms. According to TxDOT, there is exactly one "Ranch Road", >>>>> being RR 1, the rest are "farm to market." It's definitely one of the >>>>> more >>>>> confusing aspects of the Texas highway system, sort of like the nebulous >>>>> distinction between Park Roads and Rec Roads. >>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 5:22 PM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's US:TX:FM for FM roads, and US:TX:RM for RM roads. There may be >>>>>> little to no overlap between RM and FM, and they may serve the same >>>>>> purpose, but I see no need to go through them all and change all of them >>>>>> to >>>>>> one network. They are different networks according to the state of Texas. >>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 12:52 PM, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Curious if the network for RM and FM is consistently US:TX:FM for >>>>>>> both, since they're both part of the same network. >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 10:52 AM, "Clay Smalley" <claysmal...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fortunately most of Texas has been done, but unfortunately the >>>>>>>> FM/RM roads haven't been completed and there are quite a lot of them. I >>>>>>>> made a Mapcraft to help add relations to them all: >>>>>>>> http://mapcraft.nanodesu.ru/pie/269 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've made a little progress in the Texas Panhandle but we >>>>>>>> definitely need more people to help out if it's gonna get done. >>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 2013 7:39 AM, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Martijn van Exel >>>>>>>>> <m...@rtijn.org>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, how is the situation on the state level? I notice that for >>>>>>>>>> some states, there are no State Route relation pages. ( >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highway_Relations#See_also >>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm working on Oklahoma right now and keeping it documented. >>>>>>>>> Progress has been slow since I'm not satisfied in just slapping down >>>>>>>>> relations, I'm checking each highway for continuity and connectivity >>>>>>>>> as I >>>>>>>>> go along. I've been going somewhat sequentially but if I come across >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> state highway I know goes through but things refuse to route down it >>>>>>>>> while >>>>>>>>> I'm working, I'll go through and fine-tooth-comb it when I get back >>>>>>>>> (as I'm >>>>>>>>> doing with OK 48 right now). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Talk-us mailing list >>>>>>>>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
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