Paul, did you ever take 5 seconds to see that the 'lanes' problem on that side 
of the highway could have been caused by an editor bug?  iD is well know for 
hiding tags from people, and normally not alerting people when the merge ways 
that they might be damaging tags.  That is not jakeroot's fault.  You can 
squarely place that blame on the editor.  So, how about go over to the iD 
Github [1] page and report a bug or two dealing with the merging of tags?  
Don't always assume a person is vandalizing because the editor they are using 
is hiding stuff from them.  on that subject, you should apologize to jakeroot 
since the editing program is to blame there. [2]

-James

[1] - https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD
[2] - https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/908  

Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:28:00 -0500
From: ba...@ursamundi.org
To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com
CC: d...@osmfoundation.org; talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Request revert on Changeset #33669446

You're looking farther west where it's a work in progress for lanes (not having 
lanes=* tags were better than having incorrect lanes tags, since the number of 
lanes along those very long ways varies in places).  Look between Fourth Plain 
and 54th Avenue, that's where lane tags were hit with a sledgehammer.  JOSM 
obviates that this was clearly jakeroot's doing, no such apology is owed or 
will be granted.
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:47 PM, James Mast <rickmastfa...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Paul, 

I've tried to stay out of this here on talk-us, but being belligerent and 
claiming somebody else removed the 'lanes' tags that didn't do it is just wrong 
Paul.  You honestly owe jakeroot an apology here (and in the Changeset 33669446 
comments) since he didn't remove those tags!!!  You, yourself removed them 
Paul, back in Changeset 32790788 over 2 months ago.  The history here doesn't 
lie about it. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45846830/history  The 'lanes' 
tag was there for version 19 of that way edited by Bickendan, but gone in 
version 20 edited by you Paul.  The way is now currently on version 23.

If I was part of the DWG, I would recommend making you apologize to jakeroot 
before you could continue editing anything because of that.  If you didn't 
realize Paul, you're kinda acting like NE2 right now when it comes to this.

-James (rickmastfan67)


From: burke...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 20:07:31 -0400
To: ba...@ursamundi.org; d...@osmfoundation.org; talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Request revert on Changeset #33669446

Paul,



He's not saying that jakeroot isn't the most recent editor. He's saying that 
the specific changes you're referring to are in changesets earlier than 
jakeroot's, and that *those* changesets appear to be yours. 



Not at a computer, so can't look myself. 



-jack



On September 4, 2015 4:44:53 PM EDT, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:
This is in conflict with what I'm seeing in the area around Vancouver Mall, 
where jakeroot appears to be the most recent editor of everything along WA500.
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Chris Lawrence <lordsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's in the OSM way history. I didn't make it up. Look at it yourself if you 
don't believe me.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45846830/history- "lanes" disappears between 
revisions 19 and 20. You submitted revision 20.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45846831/history
- "lanes" disappears between revisions 13 and 14. You submitted revision 14.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/201133287/history
- "lanes" disappears between revisions 3 and 4. You submitted revision 4.
I could go on...

Chris
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:58 PM Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Chris Lawrence <lordsu...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:54 AM Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:
I'm going to have to additionally request this revert due to a fairly 
substantial loss of data that was involved after I spent a good 12-15 hours on 
detail lane tagging this expressway.  It appears many ways got merged and data 
was lost as a result.
Paul - You deleted that data yourself in changeset 32790788 when you made the
road a trunk in the first place.
Patently false.  I still have the last edit I made in the area on my desktop.  
jakeroot vandalized the map in his quest to tag the map NE2 style, and merged 
dozens of ways with zero regard for any tags except the one he was trying to 
game.
-- 
Christopher N. Lawrence <lordsu...@gmail.com>



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