All these discussions are the reason why I almost never touch the highway=* tag and rather add surface=* or other descriptive tags to TIGER roads. There just isn't any consensus and many good reasons for many positions about residential, unclassified, track, etc.
Harald. On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:50 PM Eric Ladner <eric.lad...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:01 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'm usually talking about mapping in much more remote areas, and I've >> been using 'track' more to denote more road quality. In some of the >> places I go, there are public rights-of-way that haven't been >> maintained by the counties in decades, that would still be lawful to >> drive on if you had a vehicle that could do it. They range from >> "completely grown to trees but you can most likely ride an ATV" >> through "mostly used for forestry, and high-clearance vehicles >> shouldn't have much problem, but don't try it in a passenger car" to >> "pea gravel and sugar sand that someone grades once a season, used as >> an auto road in the summer and a snowmobile track in the winter." > > > Isn't that what "tracktype=gradeX" is for? The first case would be > highway=track; tracktype=grade5, the second probably tracktype=grade2 and > the last tracktype=grade1. They're all highway=track (utility/farm vehicle > access), but just different grades (from grassy cow paths up to hard packed > gravel/clay roads that are, in some places, probably nicer than most back > water county paved roads. > > You mentioned forestry, so naturally I think of logging roads. > Technically it's public land, so there's no restriction to access, but for > all intents and purposes, they are highway=track. > > The >> first is "highway=path" with appropriate notations for what uses are >> permitted, the second is "highway=track" (I could add "access=yes" but >> I thought that was the default for all highways); the third I'm less >> sure about, and I'm inconsistent between "track" and "unclassified" >> (with restrictions of 15 May-15 October, or whatever the season is). >> These are all roads where I have to keep reassuring my city-bred wife, >> "yes, this is a public road, even if it looks like an abandoned >> driveway!" when driving a 4WD down one. >> > > General public access roads, though, in extreme rural areas where the road > is not what city folks would call a road -- probably would be unclassified > with a "surface" qualifier (unpaved, compacted, dirt, earth, whatever). > > The description for highway=path says it's generally used for > non-motorized vehicles. I'd prefer highway=unclassified, also with a > surface qualifier. But... > > ... I'm not bashing anybody over the head with my opinion, just stating an > alternate point of view. I'm fine with whatever anybody wants to do as > long as it's consistent and has some kind of rationale behind it. > > E > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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